FYI FORD - MustangSteve's Ford Mustang Forum
The Internet's Most Knowledgeable Classic Mustang Information
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CLASSIC FORD MUSTANGS, YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE!
MustangSteve has over 30 years of Mustang experience, having owned 30 of them and restored several others. With the help of other Mustangers, this site is dedicated to helping anyone wanting to restore or modify their Mustang.... THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS!!!!!
Visit MustangSteve's web site to view some of my work and find details for:
FYIFORD Contributors' PICTURES - Power Brake Retrofit Kits for 65-66 Stangs - Classic Mustang FAQ's by MustangSteve - How to wire in a Duraspark Ignition - Mustang Ride Height Pictures and Descriptions - Steel Bushings to fit Granada Spindles to Mustang Tie Rods - Visit my EBAY store MustangSteve Performance - How to Install Granada Disc Brakes MustangSteve's Disc Brake Swap Page - FYIFORD Acronyms for guide to all the acronyms used on this page - FYIFORD Important information and upcoming events

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?

11/13/2024 12:24 PM  #26


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

I have a 2.79 open in mine and dont miss the possi and love the 18 MPG on reg.


Slammed Big Blue, ran over the varmints that messed with the Stang. Now all is good in the NW
 

11/13/2024 1:01 PM  #27


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

I have a True Trac which I find to be the best of all worlds for my Mustang which is only driven on the street. No chirps when going around corners and locks up under most conditions. No clutches and no special oil. I used the Detroit Locker in more than a half dozen vehicles and have a lot of street time with the Detroit. While it provides full lock up, it would chirp a lot in corners, sometimes push the front end when it did not unlock and exhibited other characteristics that I did not want in a street vehicle.

My set up: T5 modified, 2.95 first, .63 overdrive, 3.55 rear, 13 inch dynamic radius. For my driving in my location, I find this optimal.
Good luck.
 

 

11/13/2024 2:58 PM  #28


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

boss347convertible wrote:

I have a True Trac which I find to be the best of all worlds for my Mustang which is only driven on the street. No chirps when going around corners and locks up under most conditions. No clutches and no special oil. I used the Detroit Locker in more than a half dozen vehicles and have a lot of street time with the Detroit. While it provides full lock up, it would chirp a lot in corners, sometimes push the front end when it did not unlock and exhibited other characteristics that I did not want in a street vehicle.

My set up: T5 modified, 2.95 first, .63 overdrive, 3.55 rear, 13 inch dynamic radius. For my driving in my location, I find this optimal.
Good luck.
 

A couple years back I swapped the Yukon built Traction Lock in my '06 F250 for a True Trac.  Wish I did it when the factory Traction Lock failed at 40,000 miles.  No LSD is really up to the task of handling the power that Diesel puts out, so now no clutches, and thus nothing to fail.  Going to try an electric locker in the front with my new engine and front suspension setup.  Pretty much a selectable spool.  I need all the traction I can get, even with 4WD. 
 

 

11/14/2024 5:33 PM  #29


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

My '69 has a Ford traction lock and 3.50:1 gears in an N-case.
The '65 has RPM's Ford traction lock and 2.50:1 gears in a standard case in it now but will get 3.00:1 gears in an N-case of mine with a Ford traction lock.
I have a swap meet sourced pumpkin with a Detroit Locker in a standard case with 3.50:1 gears but the DL seems like it will be seriously clunky - I had installed it in the fastback before I determined that the input shaft seal was leaking and then learned that the pinion support bearing was toast.  When it was installed the driveline would freewheel a quarter turn or so, which seemed really wrong. 


69 SCJ Mach1 Acapulco Blue/Black Ram Air  65 Fastback 422W C4 Disk brakes, 9in
 

11/15/2024 5:46 AM  #30


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

RCodePaul wrote:

My '69 has a Ford traction lock and 3.50:1 gears in an N-case.
The '65 has RPM's Ford traction lock and 2.50:1 gears in a standard case in it now but will get 3.00:1 gears in an N-case of mine with a Ford traction lock.
I have a swap meet sourced pumpkin with a Detroit Locker in a standard case with 3.50:1 gears but the DL seems like it will be seriously clunky - I had installed it in the fastback before I determined that the input shaft seal was leaking and then learned that the pinion support bearing was toast.  When it was installed the driveline would freewheel a quarter turn or so, which seemed really wrong. 

Any 9" with a DL should be running a solid pinion spacer.  Well, really ALL 8"/9" should run one.  That stupid crush sleeve will cause more failures than anything else in those rears.  A DL puts even more strain on what's already a compromised design.  The Achilles heel of that design is that the pinion bearings are too close together, necessitating that pocket bearing on the pinion head.  A good shock load will cause the pinion to get cockeyed and break the case at the pocket bearing bore, and then the ring and pinion turn to junk.  This occurs because the crush sleeve oscillates and changes length just enough to allow the pinion bearings to bind, causing the pinion to be momentarily static while the ring gear rotates and forces the pinion downward.  Year ago there was a local legend circle track car builder here in DE who figured this out (really smart German machinist type guy).  He started making his own solid spacers and his rear end trouble completely went away.  Consequently, I've always set up crush sleeve rears with a solid spacer and never had a failure I cold trace back to the pinion bearings. 
 

 

11/21/2024 5:47 PM  #31


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

TKOPerformance wrote:

Any 9" with a DL should be running a solid pinion spacer.  Well, really ALL 8"/9" should run one.  That stupid crush sleeve will cause more failures than anything else in those rears.  
 

Great comment and not just because I agree wholeheartedly and practice what you preach. I've set up maybe a half dozen pumpkins and in general have bought my stuff from Randy's Ring and Pinion and 100% of the time used solid pinion spacers. The oddball crush sleeve just never made sense to me. 


69 SCJ Mach1 Acapulco Blue/Black Ram Air  65 Fastback 422W C4 Disk brakes, 9in
 

11/22/2024 1:36 PM  #32


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

Yeah I got used to shimming the pinion bearings when I did a lot of work on heavy truck axles. Never went back.

 

11/22/2024 4:16 PM  #33


Re: Open Diff bs Limited Slip

I bought a Eaton Truetrac with a 3.25 gear from Quick Performance.  I have a T5.  Ive been really happy with it.  

Steve69

 

Board footera


REMEMBER!!! When posting a question about your Mustang or other Ford on this forum, BE SURE to tell us what it is, what year, engine, etc so we have enough information to go on.