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12/22/2024 4:33 PM  #26


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6


Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
 

12/22/2024 7:34 PM  #27


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

6sally6 wrote:

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6

I get that watching any aviation related movies - it is as if the writers know absolutely nothing about aircraft or how they work - which is very true.
 


68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
 

12/23/2024 5:58 AM  #28


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

6sally6 wrote:

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6

This is actually why I love watching those movies with my father-in-law.  I get why the film makers do stuff that isn't the way it would really be done, because often it greatly increases dramatic effect.  I mean, that scene in The Hunt for Red October where the Dallas does the emergency blow was awesome, but dad snickered at it and I asked why and he said it wouldn't make sense to do that when there was nothing wrong with the boat.  Surfacing that way is dangerous and could cause more problems than it solved. 
 

 

12/23/2024 6:12 AM  #29


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

Ron68 wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

I'm kinda that way about watching submarine flicks.
Whether I say it out loud or just think it...."That ain't how its done...that is sooo phoney...eye-roll...eye-roll....what made-up cra-/poop...man! that's just stupid."
So I don't watch them (usually)
Yeah....'made-up-drama'...and most folks seem to buy-it (or else nobody would watch them)
I DID like the car series Cut-Chop-and Rebuild though
6sal6

I get that watching any aviation related movies - it is as if the writers know absolutely nothing about aircraft or how they work - which is very true.
 

I do this almost any time they do anything with cars, firearms, or martial arts too.  If you shoot someone and they fly back 15 feet you would fly back 15 feet too due to basic physics.  There is also a very specific place where you are guaranteed an instant kill, even with a head shot.  Anyone who's ever hunted would tell you a deer shot through the heart still can run for 100 yards or more.  They don't drop dead instantly.  You could live days after being gut shot, and according to two ER doctors I know they almost never stitch a gunshot wound closed (its a puncture wound and could trap an infection inside leading to sepsis). 

People aren't bags of blood either.  Ever cut yourself and have blood fly everywhere?  Yeah, me neither.  I've even seen guys get cut with saw blades and do serious damage and it still doesn't happen like that. 

If it were as easy as its made out to be in the movies to break someone's neck none of us would have survived childhood. 

And don't get me started on the cars.  The lingo that goes along with it most of the time is flawed somewhere, and the stunts and now the CGI they use is absurd. 

There's actually a whole series of YouTube videos with actual snipers, fighters, etc. who rate how accurate movies are.  The truly realistic ones are few and far between. 
 

 

12/23/2024 7:44 AM  #30


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

TKO – “If it were as easy as its made out to be in the movies to break someone's neck none of us would have survived childhood.”
Ya boy, ain’t that the truth!


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

Yesterday 5:17 PM  #31


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

I'm a sucker for most car show and enjoyed watching Fast and Loud with Aaron.... I could live without the drama though. That Boss 9 was a great looking car in really good shape. Richard would be money ahead to flip it vs restoration to as new or as raced condition. It did give me some incentive to get mine going as well. 

There's a guy restoring Dodges up north and I watched some of his stuff. Didn't take long for the way his attitude came across for me to stop. He wasn't worth it to see the beautiful cars in a finished state. 

Are classic car prices inflated, probable so. I can't blame it all on Rawlins. Does anyone remember the Autotrader days? There would be advertisers that had Shelby's listed with a sold tag across them and a sale price that seemed high for the time. That was "good" advertising. Let it run for a few months and everyone starts to believe it's real prices. 

I started watching Dennis Collins Coffee Walk. He's buying and selling, but rarely talks dollars on the camera. It's amazing how many of those cars are being liquidated by surviving spouse or kids.  


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

Today 7:30 AM  #32


Re: Gas Monkey found a very rare Boss 9

Prices are a sticky subject.  Do they seem inflated?  Sure, but then given how long we've all been in the hobby looking at a rare car like a Boss or Shelby, or even a run of the mill offering like a V8 fastback; we all remember what they used to cost back in the day.  I bought my '67 fastback for $3,900 in about 1992.  It was a running (kinda), driving (mostly) car that looked decent from 50'.  My total investment in the car by '96 was around $13,500, and I remember thinking I'd never get my money back out of it if I had to sell it (not that I thought I ever would and thus far have been proven right).  Fast forward to 2024 and the car I initially bought would probably sell for closer to $20,000, and in the condition it was in in '96 would be more like $50,000.  BUT, we also have to look at what's happened in the world in that time.  I remember $20 filling the tank with high test and having change left over.  I remember a date consisting of diner and a movie running $30.  That tank of gas now costs more like $55, and diner and a movie is more like $70.  Anyone own a house they bought 20-30 years ago that isn't worth at least twice what you paid for it?  Point being, inflation is part of the rise in prices.

Another thing to consider is that classic cars trade like all commodities.  Most economists would tell you that other commodities like say gold or silver are worth today what they were worth 2,000 years ago.  The amount of effort and cost to extract those metals is the same as it was in Roman times; the difference is that everything costs more now that it did then because of inflation.  Sure, the markets do experience upward and downward trends depending on other market conditions (people tend to flock to commodities in inflationary times for example, raising prices).  But overall things with intrinsic value tend to just adjust with inflation, and classic cars aren't much different.

Then you have to factor in what happened when the largest generation in US history hit retirement age and all had awesome pensions and lots of retirement savings.  The market size increased by a factor of 4 0r 5 overnight and the pool of available cars didn't increase.  Demand was sky high and supply was low, so prices rose precipitously.  Over the years demand has cooled, but always seems to come back.  This also bled out into the rest of the market taking nice, but far less desirable cars, like the run of the mill fastback V8 that isn't a Boss or Shelby, along for the ride.  Today we even see the classic 4x4 market booming, and '80s cars are also now hot.  

So, the Richard Rawlins of the world definitely set some crazy highs at auctions over the years, BUT also consider that I've seen a lot of cars not sell for inflated prices, and the base demand for the cars comes from us.  Rawlins and Co didn't create the market; he simply capitalized on it, and in the end I don't think that I despise him for that so much as his on screen used car salesman, jack@$$ persona. 
 

 

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