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I saw at least 6 different ones on eBay, and they don't all look the same. Anyone have any opinion on which is better? Clearly one probably has the best clearance for the exhaust system.
I am working on a 5.0 / AOD swap, running either hipo exhaust (current setup) or jba shorties (maybe). And 2.25 dusl pipes (already installed) with h-pipe.
Planning borgenson steering but don't think that matters at this time.
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I made my own, Jeff, but that may not be something you want to do. So, pick one from a reputable outfit and go with it . All it has to do is move the trans mount to the rear couple of inches so it's not a major piece of engineering. I would suggest that you make sure whatever you get has provisions for the E-brake.
Also, you will need to build a new H-pipe or head pipes to get around the AOD...it's quite a bit wider than the C4. I also run the HIPO manifolds and think that's a great way to go for a "street" car.
Don't know what you plan to do for a shifter but you can use the stock C4 unit with a couple of simple (more or less) mods. I will be happy to shoot a pick of mine which I modified for the AOD and then modified some more for the 4R70W. Personally, I like the stock look in the interior so I like keeping the stock shifter. Let me know if you want some pix.
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for letting me know. I current am running the original 3 spd manual. The AOD comes with a B&M shifter (which is a bit too race-minded for me, but since I have it I might a well as use it for now.). I agree I'd like a stock shifter, what mods are needed?
Anyhow so since I have an H pipe already, how wide is your H-pipe? Do you think I can have it cut and have a new wide h pipe welded in?
My email is jkaminsky2002@yahoo.com
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Does the AOD mount only sit 2.5" further back? If so I have a very small H pipe (distance between the exhaust pipes and its set 3" further back than the 3spd manual transmission mount. (so here's me hoping that I don't have to cut my exhaust)
Why does that matter? I'm not a welder.... not until I buy one and teach myself how to melt metal ![]()
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Bullet Bob wrote:
I made my own, Jeff, but that may not be something you want to do. So, pick one from a reputable outfit and go with it . All it has to do is move the trans mount to the rear couple of inches so it's not a major piece of engineering. I would suggest that you make sure whatever you get has provisions for the E-brake.
Also, you will need to build a new H-pipe or head pipes to get around the AOD...it's quite a bit wider than the C4. I also run the HIPO manifolds and think that's a great way to go for a "street" car.
Don't know what you plan to do for a shifter but you can use the stock C4 unit with a couple of simple (more or less) mods. I will be happy to shoot a pick of mine which I modified for the AOD and then modified some more for the 4R70W. Personally, I like the stock look in the interior so I like keeping the stock shifter. Let me know if you want some pix.
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Bob - I would be interested in seeing the pics you took of the 4R70W/stock shifter mod. I cobbed mine together out of a 1998 shifter and a 2002 shift cable. I couldn't mod the stock C-4 shifter so I installed the 98 shifter and simply put a fabric boot around it. I's like to change is back and if you have a mod to make it work with the 4R70W, I'd like to see it.
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Jeff and Ron; For the AOD, I just added a piece to the lower lever and moved the linkage hole either back and up or back and down a bit to get the proper travel for the selector lever on my AOD. I'll try to post a pic but that seems to be unreliable for me. Don't know why. For the 4R70W I made further mods to the lower lever, added a piece with a notch to the shift stop, and replaced the "green dot" bezel with one for a 67. I also got wierd and added a small momentary button to the right side of the lever "T" to control the OD lockout. I know I sent pix of the lower lever mod to Josh a few years ago. Will check my files and see if I can find those. If not, I'll have to put the Heap on the lift and get some shots for Jeff and you. Probably need to email them as, like I said, my pic posting ability is spotty.
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Jeff; As for the H-pipe, I would say just get the trans in and then custom fit the head pipes and add the crossover. I think I had the local pipe shop do mine but it's been twenty years ago for the AOD. For the 4R70W I just removed the crossover and went without. Not sure I'm happy with the "no crossover" setup and will likely add one. Butt (TS&T) it is handy to be able to drop the head pipes as needed without having to fight a one-piece "H" pipe.
I'll find and or shoot some pix soon as I can and email those to you Jeff. If you have any fabbing skills, you shouldn't have a problem with the shifter. I do know you will want the selector lever on the trans to be pointing up. Mine came that way as it was from a Crown Vic.
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