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2/03/2026 7:32 PM  #1


Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

'67 Coupe, 302. So, a couple of years ago the tranny started puking out a lot of fluid when it was parked overnight. Last summer I took it to a tranny shop that works on a lot of classics. I had them go through the whole transmission and replace all of the gaskets and seals. I also had them put a one-way check valve in the transmission cooler line to see if that would stop the puking. Well, it seemed to solve the problem with the overnight issue. However, now when I park the car for more than a day or two it pukes out fluid again. It is really frustrating. 
I can't find any visible leaks so I assume it is coming from the overflow but I don't know why. It didn't do that for the first 20 years I owned the car. 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   

 

2/03/2026 9:58 PM  #2


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Was the check valve a low crack type in the returnline?


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2/04/2026 7:24 AM  #3


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

If the cooler lines are connected the way they always were why would it all the sudden require a check valve not to leak?  In my mind all the valve did way keep the fluid in the cooler instead of letting it drain back into the pan.  Depending on the quality of the check valve, it may have simply failed, and that's why the problem has resurfaced.

However, I don't consider this an actual fix.  The first thing you need to do is determine beyond doubt and guess where the fluid is coming from.  Its not getting out of the transmission by osmosis.  There are only so many places from which it could leak.  Most transmissions have a case vent at the top.  If this were the source there should be trans fluid down the sides of the case.  It could also be leaking from the dipstick tube, the speedo drive, or the pan.  I would start by thoroughly cleaning the transmission and then use the old powder test to find where the leak is coming from.  

 

2/04/2026 9:28 AM  #4


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Depending on the actual year of the C4, Ford used at least two methods for anti-drain back that were internal as part of the case or valve body.  Both have the potential to eventually fail and the common fix is to install a check-valve in the return line.  Since it worked, and now doesn't I'd start with the check-valve that the shop installed.  It may not be the best/correct type or it may have just simply failed.  So, you can either try to drop the valve body and correct the anti-drain back function, pull the trans and have a shop rebuild it, or replace the external check-valve with a known proper type and test.  Seems like the check-valve would be the easiest and cheapest to try.

 

2/04/2026 10:00 AM  #5


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

If the anti drain back valve is in the valve body its doubtful it would be touched during a rebuild.  IME they just clean up the valve body and put it back in, especially if nothing was trashed inside the trans (nothing broken, no metal, etc.).  Rarely do they touch the individual components, and my guess is that the knowledge of what a valve body does and how to inspect and fix it is likely a rare commodity today, as all auto transmissions have been computer controlled for over 3 decades now.  Once solenoids took the place of all those valves troubleshooting changed drastically.  

 

2/04/2026 6:57 PM  #6


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

I built a fully roller bearing converted manual valve body C4 for my car. One of the mods to increase flow in the pump circuit is to remove the spring and check ball from the pump itself. I did that, so mine has no check ball. And it doesn't do what yours does. 
I'd be surprised if it were leaking from anything above the midline of the tranny - like the vent or the fill tube. I'd expect something down lower. 
I'd drive it, make sure the fill level is correct and then put it up on cribbing or jackstands. Clean the trans so you will be able to detect any leak source(s). Put a catch tray down. Then see where it ends up leaking. If your pan gasket is fine, the next lowest leak source on the main body is the shifter detent shaft seal. 
I have an aftermarket cast aluminum pan, much better than the stock stamped steel unit. 


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2/06/2026 7:43 PM  #7


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

I know that it sounds improbable but here is what recently happened. We just had a winter storm (in Texas) so the car was parked in the garage. I checked it a few times and no leak. Then after about 4 days it dropped a large puddle of fluid. It is not a consistent leak - it seems to happen all at once. I've done the powder spray thing and can't trace the leak. The filler tube area is dry. It seems to be coming from up top - maybe the vent? Why would it do that after sitting for days?
The old guy that checked out the tranny last year has worked on these things for 50 years and he told me at the time that he had replaced the spring and check ball as well. 
It is a conundrum!   
I think I'll take it back to the transmission guy and give him another shot at it. 

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2/06/2026 8:07 PM  #8


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Only places that come to mind on the C4 are: pan, shifter shaft nut, vacuum modulator, vent, band adjustments

Last edited by Nos681 (2/06/2026 8:08 PM)

 

2/07/2026 4:55 AM  #9


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

I can't see it coming from the vent after sitting for days.  Fluid coming out the vent IME occurs when something going to the cooler gets plugged allowing the fluid to back up inside the trans and come out the vent.  Obviously the engine has to be running (pump pumping) for this to happen.  

When you say you can't trace the leak with powder what do you mean?  Do you mean you can't pinpoint the source, or that nothing leaks across the powder?  

 

2/08/2026 12:22 PM  #10


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Because of the large amount of fluid being puked out when it happens (essentially overnight) without any sign of leakage from the seals or pan or other common places it seems that the vent tube, illogical as that may be, could be the source. I shone a flashlight into the vent tube this morning and it is wet with fluid in there. Maybe that is normal, I don't know.
In any event, I suppose I'll take it back to the tranny guy this week and see what he thinks.    

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2/08/2026 2:46 PM  #11


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Does it still shift like its suppose to ?! Not slipping or grinding/growling ?
Just puke'in fluid ...
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2/08/2026 8:09 PM  #12


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

Yes, the transmission works great - engages solidly and shifts the way it should. Of course, I have to add a bit of fluid now and then.  

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2/09/2026 6:47 AM  #13


Re: Looking For C-4 Help - AGAIN

I would flush out/blow through the cooler and cooler lines while the trans is out.  

 

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