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4/25/2013 6:12 PM  #1


Cable Clutch question......

1966 Mustang Fastback, T5, MS cable clutch, OEM diaphragm 10.5 inch clutch, MS bearing pedal support. I posted some pics of the routing.  My question: How much force should it take to push in the clutch pedal? Had my 12 year old daughter in it, while I was under that car looking.  She could barely push it in.  Then I tried and it took a lot of "man" power to push it in. Any comments/suggestions welcome.


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
 

4/25/2013 6:15 PM  #2


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Here is the other pic.......


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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4/25/2013 6:44 PM  #3


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Pedal effort should be same as a Fox Mustang with 5.0.  Is the clutch functional or is this all a brand new install?  Usually when I have someone with a stiff pedal it is because they melted the cable on the headers.  It does not appear that would be the case with your installation.

To test if the cable itselh has a problem, disconnect it from the release arm at the bellhousing.  See if the wire moves freely in the housing.  If it does, the problem is inside the bellhousing.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

4/25/2013 6:52 PM  #4


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Thanks for the quick reply MS. Yes it's all new install. New clutch, diaphragm, TO bearing, fork, pilot bearing, tranny. Yes, the cable moves great when it is disconnected from the fork. 


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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4/27/2013 11:13 AM  #5


Re: Cable Clutch question......

So I checked the cable without it attached to the fork.  Pedal is easily pushed in and cable moves freely in the sheeth.  When I hook up the cable to the fork, the pedal is pretty hard to push in.  Below are the things I have checked:

1. Routing of the cable
2. Correct adjustment. (I followed MS instructions that came with cable clutch)
3. I put tranny in gear and yoke would not move.  Wife pressed the clutch pedal in, yoke moves freely.
4. I took some pics of the throw out bearing contacting the pressure plate.  They are of the bearing released and engaged with the pressure plate.  '

Any suggestions are welcome.  Everything is new so I dont know if this is cause of the newest or am I missing something.  The pedal is so hard that the firewall is flexing and I can hear it creeking.  Thanks!


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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4/27/2013 11:17 AM  #6


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Pic 1


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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4/27/2013 3:44 PM  #7


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Looks like one of the spring clips (top picture) on the t/o bearing is not installed properly and is not in the slot where it belongs.  While that alone should not keep it from working right, it may be causing the t/o bearing to hang up on the bearing retainer tube.  Is this a used or new transmission?  Did you check the t/o bearing to be sure it slides freely on the bearing tube?  Sometimes the tube gets a little wear or grooved and the bearing will then hang up and not move freely.

What pressure plate are you using?


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

4/27/2013 3:49 PM  #8


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Thanks Steve for the reply. Ill look at that clip a little better. New tranny with a steel retainer. Got it from Glen. New Throw Out and I made sure it slid on the retain before I installed everything. Ill look at that clip. 

Sorry just saw that you asked about my PP.  It's an OEM Sachs from Oriellys. For a 1991 mustang. 

Last edited by Tmac (4/27/2013 4:13 PM)


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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5/01/2013 8:22 PM  #9


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Did you use the pedal bearing conversion too?  I used his pedal bearings and clutch cable  setup.. and with a king Cobra  10.5 diaphram  clutch I can literally depress the pedal to the floor with three fingers

 

5/02/2013 6:33 AM  #10


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Jeremy,
I sent you a PM.  To answer your question: Yes I used the pedal bearings, cable clutch, 10.5 diaphram clutch, although not King Cobra.........but if I have to get into the bellhousing, I maybe buying a King Clutch.


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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5/02/2013 1:10 PM  #11


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Tmac wrote:

So I checked the cable without it attached to the fork.  Pedal is easily pushed in and cable moves freely in the sheeth.  When I hook up the cable to the fork, the pedal is pretty hard to push in.  Below are the things I have checked:

1. Routing of the cable
2. Correct adjustment. (I followed MS instructions that came with cable clutch)
3. I put tranny in gear and yoke would not move.  Wife pressed the clutch pedal in, yoke moves freely.
4. I took some pics of the throw out bearing contacting the pressure plate.  They are of the bearing released and engaged with the pressure plate.  '

Any suggestions are welcome.  Everything is new so I dont know if this is cause of the newest or am I missing something.  The pedal is so hard that the firewall is flexing and I can hear it creeking.  Thanks!

 
Sounds like you just need to have your wife push that pedal for you!  


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

5/02/2013 1:27 PM  #12


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Here is me pushing  my pedal  to the floor with my thumb... not to rub it in... but what you should be experiencinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tdua4sVwqE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

5/02/2013 2:13 PM  #13


Re: Cable Clutch question......

Steve.......well that was just funny.  On I side note, she did get under the mustang and help me measure my driveshaft length.  It was funny to hear her say, "its dirty down here"....!!!!!


1966 Mustang Fastback K-Code,289,T-5, 9-inch rear with 3.50 gears.
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