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    6/05/2014 1:13 PM  #1

    R5CYA
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    granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    o.k. this is odd. when i first got this kit about 15 years ago (yeah this project has been on the back burner that long) i thought it was odd that my stock 6 cyl. tie rods bolted right up to it. i was thinking that they would be too small for the hole in the spindle. fast forward to now. i just got a V8 manual steering kit and ordered sme granada tie rods from my local Napa. as soom as we looked at the granada tie rods, we knew something was up. they will not go into the hole in the spindle at all!

    all this time i was thinking that the mustang and granada had the same size tie rod (with the granada being lower) and that the spacer Steve sells was just to lower the mustang tie rod so it would replicate it's original angle with the mustang spindle. (does that make sense?)

    now what have i got on my hands? granada spindles that were welded up and re-machined for mustang tie rods? or am i completely missing something obvious here?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    p.s. this is on a 65 coupe. manual steering.

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    6/05/2014 2:28 PM  #2

    Greg B
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    Re: granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    How about a pic or two?   clean off the top and bottom of the spindle arm real good.  

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    6/05/2014 3:21 PM  #3

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    Re: granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    if i thought it would help, i would. not really set up for doing pics and transfering to the computer though. if there's something in particular you want me to look for, let me know. i'm about to put it all together with the mustang tie rods. it's the only way this can go back together without a machinist working on the spindles.
    these spindles have to have been modified, i guess.

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    6/05/2014 4:03 PM  #4

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    Re: granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    Are you sure they are Granada spindles?  68-73 Mustang spindles also work with Granada brackets and calipers and have a much smaller tie rod than Granada.

    The spacer is to make a small tie rod fit into a larger hole.  It does not reposition the tie rod in any way.  I do not support any theories that give the tie rod stud a longer lever arm that can lead to breaking it off.

    Look on the back side of the spindle, on the vertical part facing the engine between the two ball joints.  Ther will be a number cast onto the spindle vertical part.  Use some sandpaper or a file to clean it up so you can read the numbr and then report it here.

    However challenged you may be at taking pictures and saving them to your computer and then using the tinypics software available at the lower right hand corner of the text box to transfer them to the forum, it sure would help if you could take some pictures of the spindles and brakes.  For all I know, they may not even be Granada brakes at all, and any suggestion that anyone could make is merely a shot in the dark.

    Last edited by MustangSteve (6/05/2014 4:05 PM)

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    6/05/2014 9:11 PM  #5

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    Re: granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    they were advertised as a granada conversion when i bought them way back when. they have a single piston caliper. i will get a few pics and part numbers for you. have you ever heard of anyone selling granada conversion with the hole in the spindle re-done to mustang specs?

    p.s. to make it more interesting, i will not be removing any material from the adjuster or the tie rods. i have plenty of adjustment left with the toe about 0. makes me think the spindles have been modified in that area as well.

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    6/09/2014 5:43 PM  #6

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    Re: granada spindles, but granada tie rods don't fit.

    Do those spindles have CSRP cast into the side?  Or some other number?

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