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6/17/2014 8:09 PM  #1


Gas tank safety idea

Since Kristang brought up leveling his trunk floor, it made an idea pop into my mind.  I know the subject of gas tank safety has come up many times, with some varying solutions.  How about this idea that popped into my head.   

Why not work the edges of the lip opening a bit, maybe tack on some weld nuts, or use u nuts and install the tank from the bottom?   Then a sheet metal panel could be welded above the area and a boxed in section with a bolt on sheet metal cover could be made for the filler area.   Seems to me even the larger tank would fit in the new recessed area?  

That would give the area more structural integrity, and at the same time keep all the backsplash of gas under the car instead of the passenger compartment in all but the absolute worst cases. In which it probably wouldnt matter anyways.    I dont think the tank would end up sitting too much lower to make that an issue.  Those running smaller tanks would lose some trunk depth, those running the larger later year tanks have already lost it anyway.  

What yall think?    


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6/17/2014 8:33 PM  #2


Re: Gas tank safety idea

I have been considering that very thing as part of the new tank installation.  On my F-100, I built an angle iron frame that fit around the tank flange, then the flange was sandwiched between that frame and the bottom side of the mounting frame, so the tank was bolted in from the bottom, with nuts welded to the top of the frame so you only had to use bolts from below.
The other thing I am considering doing, which appears would be very easy to do, is move the tank to the passenger side about 1/2" to allow clearance for exhaust and shackle R&R access on the driver side.  I am very surprised I have never thought of that before, or that no one else has mentioned doing it.  Since the passenger side tank drop-off area is tapered, it would be simple to cut the corners, lessen the taper, making that side more vertical, then make some sheetmetal corner fillers and weld them in.  Add a piece of steel to take up the driver side resulting gap.  Hose should be able to angle enough to move the tank 1/2".  Heck, even 1/4" of movement would be a big help when running 2-1/2" tailpipes.


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6/17/2014 9:34 PM  #3


Re: Gas tank safety idea

MustangSteve wrote:

I have been considering that very thing as part of the new tank installation.  On my F-100, I built an angle iron frame that fit around the tank flange, then the flange was sandwiched between that frame and the bottom side of the mounting frame, so the tank was bolted in from the bottom, with nuts welded to the top of the frame so you only had to use bolts from below.
The other thing I am considering doing, which appears would be very easy to do, is move the tank to the passenger side about 1/2" to allow clearance for exhaust and shackle R&R access on the driver side.  I am very surprised I have never thought of that before, or that no one else has mentioned doing it.  Since the passenger side tank drop-off area is tapered, it would be simple to cut the corners, lessen the taper, making that side more vertical, then make some sheetmetal corner fillers and weld them in.  Add a piece of steel to take up the driver side resulting gap.  Hose should be able to angle enough to move the tank 1/2".  Heck, even 1/4" of movement would be a big help when running 2-1/2" tailpipes.

A lot of work to gain 1/2" butt-lick you said....well worth it to help that cramped up side of the exhaust system!
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6/17/2014 9:53 PM  #4


Re: Gas tank safety idea

If it's just safety issues, such as a fire going into the passenger area incase of a rear ender, remember the old Pinto's had the same problem.  Ford's solution was to install a solid panel on the metal brace benind the rear seat back.  I don't remember (it's been a lot of beers ago) but I think the safety panel was a piece of sheet metal.
Enjoy

 

6/18/2014 7:23 AM  #5


Re: Gas tank safety idea

Mounting it underneath with a plate over top certainly wouldn't hurt, but remember, the main offender on these cars in a rear collision is the rubber fill neck hose rupturing allowing fuel to slosh/escape into the trunk area.  As mentioned above, the addition of a sheetmetal plate between the rear seat and trunk would be a large addition to the safety factor.  Also, even with the fuel isolated from the passenger compartment, if the car is rearended with enough force to rupture the tank there will also be whiplash issues unless highback seats with headrests are installed in the early cars.  While your at it, 3-point belts are nice to.

 

6/18/2014 7:42 AM  #6


Re: Gas tank safety idea

Yes the seat divider panel is a known help, but is not an option for fastback or convertibles.    

The filler neck area needs to be boxed in as well, and in such a way the fuel would have a path to drain downward.  The space between the the top of the tank and the permanent sheet metal divider would be where the fuel would go.  Keeping it outside the car and on the ground.  

No solution is perfect.  No amount of reverse engineering is going to make these cars as safe as a modern car.   Theres no breakaway glass, no side impact protection, cars in their unmolested form have steering column safety issues....I could go on and on.   Some things we can make a bit safer, some things we cant.    This fuel tank thing has always been a major concern of mine.  

Last edited by Greg B (6/18/2014 7:48 AM)


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6/18/2014 2:38 PM  #7


Re: Gas tank safety idea

I've been wanting to do that for a long time too. There's a company that makes a shield, that is crazy heavy and very pricey, called tank armor. I have been trying to find a piece of SS sheet that doesn't break the bank, that my friend can Fab up for me. Not sure what thickness to go with, but was thinking 3/16". As far a seat divider, was thinking maybe aluminum sheet for that. Any thoughts?

 

6/18/2014 3:00 PM  #8


Re: Gas tank safety idea

Prolly the thing to keep in mind is......you just want to....buy a little time to get out of the car before she..."goes up"! If you're pinned in or knocked unconscience you're more-or-less....SOL!
A fuel cell with a bladder is a safer option butt........
6sal6


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6/18/2014 3:43 PM  #9


Re: Gas tank safety idea

I had considered a flat plate over the top of the gas tank, but in reality, if rearended, it is just going to get crumpled just like the tank will and gaps will be created between the plate and trunk floor.
Tht is why I have just left mine alone.  Nothing except a fuel cell will do the job completely. 


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6/18/2014 6:23 PM  #10


Re: Gas tank safety idea

I didn't mention the fuel safe fuel cells, etc. As most of us don't have $1000+ to blow on a gas tank

 

6/18/2014 7:54 PM  #11


Re: Gas tank safety idea

I think I posted this before, but I took the panels off of a dryer and cut them to fit behind the back seat. I sealed them with silicone caulk when I installed them. Figured it might keep some of the gas out of the cabin if ever get rear ended.

67 coupe.


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