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8/25/2014 10:00 PM  #1


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Gentlemen,
I've ordered a blast cabnet from harbor freight (on sale 199.00) . What would be the best all purpose media to use ? Fine sand, glass beads, etc,


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8/25/2014 11:26 PM  #2


Re: recomendations

Aluminum oxide works for me.

Bob


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8/26/2014 6:02 AM  #3


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It really depends on what you're blasting and what kind of surface finish you want to wind up with.


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8/26/2014 6:18 AM  #4


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I have been using Harbor Freight's aluminum oxide black...70G...nice stuff,works great on anything Mustang...around 45 lb containers....jj


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8/26/2014 6:59 AM  #5


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Don't use anything but glass beads on aluminum if you want to retain the natural 
"as cast" finish. Most other media have sharp corners and on aluminum or any other soft material, will pock mark the surface which will be impossible to clean. Think of center punching the surface a million times and then trying to clean the subsequently accumulated dirt  off of the part.
 I use almost exclusively glass beads except for severly rusted metals where I use reclaimed glass.


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8/26/2014 8:40 AM  #6


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I have the same cabinet and if you haven't already, you will need to get a REALLY GOOD water seperator for your compressor otherwise the blaster is unusable. As for media I've used the aluminum and the glass stuff and yeah it's great for aluminum . But it's kinda wimpy on everything else. And sense I haven't found much, if anything aluminum that needed to be blasted I've bin using bags of play sand from Walmart's garden department for the past 2 years ($3.00 each) buy the way.

Last edited by Derek (8/26/2014 8:41 AM)


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8/26/2014 2:50 PM  #7


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Crushed glass.  Water filter.  Strong vacuum cleaner.  Buy a crate of those magnetic LED lights that are battery operated and stick them to the inside of the box so you can see.  That is the biggest problem.  Also replace the pickup hose with one that won't kink or suck flat.  AND WEAR A RESPIRATOR, have a big fan at your back blowing the stuff away from you.

RTV all seams in the cabinet when assembling those 879 bolted connections. Otherwise it will leak really bad.  Remember, that sealed up box is like a balloon being inflated by a steady flow of air from your compressor at 90 PSI.  If you do not have a vacuum cleaner large enough to suck out MORE than the volume of air you are pumping in, SOMETHING will start leaking out (assuming it doesn't explode) and that leaking air will be taking lots of suspended sand/glass particles with it.  Hence making a huge mess.


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8/26/2014 5:54 PM  #8


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Have read several posts in the past about media blasting (sand, glass, plastic. walnut ect).  What I have not seen are comments about after blasting.
First a little back ground info.  I have been an aviation mechanic for over 30 years. Just about anything to do with aircraft maintenance.
The most important thing to do after blasting especially with GLASS beads is as follows.  This applies to all parts expossed to any type of oil, ESPECIALLY alluminum.  You can use all the air you want to get the glass out off alluminum, but you won't.  When you use glass at any pressure you force the glass to stick like a magnet.
1. Use an air nozzle in all holes and passages to remove excess glass beads.
2. Wash the parts with warm soapy water.  Dry it and wash it again.
I have taken apart many aircraft engines that within a few hours after overhaul that have turned into crank, bearing and cam grinders.  When the oil filters were cut open they all had one thing in common,  Glass beads in the oil.
Glass beads are great for rust or corrosion removal,  Properly cleaned the parts are ok.  Plastic and walnut shells are far superior to remove paint, silcone or any type of grease free dirt.  All media will clean the grease but it also makes your media unusable, unless you want to sift out the grease.
We always start with plastic. If that is not clean enough as in rust or corrosion. then the glass bead gets used.  No matter what you do use the lowest pressure you can get by with.  If you use a pressure blaster you can get into the 20 psi range and never damage a part.  I use the same Harbor Frieght cabenet and one of thier pressure blasters.  Works great.
I hope this info saves everyone here some head aches.
L8tr
Steve
 


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8/26/2014 9:47 PM  #9


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57steve wrote:

Have read several posts in the past about media blasting (sand, glass, plastic. walnut ect).  What I have not seen are comments about after blasting.
First a little back ground info.  I have been an aviation mechanic for over 30 years. Just about anything to do with aircraft maintenance.
The most important thing to do after blasting especially with GLASS beads is as follows.  This applies to all parts expossed to any type of oil, ESPECIALLY alluminum.  You can use all the air you want to get the glass out off alluminum, but you won't.  When you use glass at any pressure you force the glass to stick like a magnet.
1. Use an air nozzle in all holes and passages to remove excess glass beads.
2. Wash the parts with warm soapy water.  Dry it and wash it again.
I have taken apart many aircraft engines that within a few hours after overhaul that have turned into crank, bearing and cam grinders.  When the oil filters were cut open they all had one thing in common,  Glass beads in the oil.
Glass beads are great for rust or corrosion removal,  Properly cleaned the parts are ok.  Plastic and walnut shells are far superior to remove paint, silcone or any type of grease free dirt.  All media will clean the grease but it also makes your media unusable, unless you want to sift out the grease.
We always start with plastic. If that is not clean enough as in rust or corrosion. then the glass bead gets used.  No matter what you do use the lowest pressure you can get by with.  If you use a pressure blaster you can get into the 20 psi range and never damage a part.  I use the same Harbor Frieght cabenet and one of thier pressure blasters.  Works great.
I hope this info saves everyone here some head aches.
L8tr
Steve
 

I don't have experience in this area, but have read a number of accounts of folks who will not blast with glass bead on engine parts (e.g., intake manifolds) for this very reason - the glass beads cannot be cleaned from the surface and introduce the glass particles into the oiling system.
 


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8/26/2014 10:24 PM  #10


Re: recomendations

jkordzi wrote:

57steve wrote:

Have read several posts in the past about media blasting (sand, glass, plastic. walnut ect).  What I have not seen are comments about after blasting.
First a little back ground info.  I have been an aviation mechanic for over 30 years. Just about anything to do with aircraft maintenance.
The most important thing to do after blasting especially with GLASS beads is as follows.  This applies to all parts expossed to any type of oil, ESPECIALLY alluminum.  You can use all the air you want to get the glass out off alluminum, but you won't.  When you use glass at any pressure you force the glass to stick like a magnet.
1. Use an air nozzle in all holes and passages to remove excess glass beads.
2. Wash the parts with warm soapy water.  Dry it and wash it again.
I have taken apart many aircraft engines that within a few hours after overhaul that have turned into crank, bearing and cam grinders.  When the oil filters were cut open they all had one thing in common,  Glass beads in the oil.
Glass beads are great for rust or corrosion removal,  Properly cleaned the parts are ok.  Plastic and walnut shells are far superior to remove paint, silcone or any type of grease free dirt.  All media will clean the grease but it also makes your media unusable, unless you want to sift out the grease.
We always start with plastic. If that is not clean enough as in rust or corrosion. then the glass bead gets used.  No matter what you do use the lowest pressure you can get by with.  If you use a pressure blaster you can get into the 20 psi range and never damage a part.  I use the same Harbor Frieght cabenet and one of thier pressure blasters.  Works great.
I hope this info saves everyone here some head aches.
L8tr
Steve
 

I don't have experience in this area, but have read a number of accounts of folks who will not blast with glass bead on engine parts (e.g., intake manifolds) for this very reason - the glass beads cannot be cleaned from the surface and introduce the glass particles into the oiling system.
 

As long as the time is spent to carefully wash the part with soap and water,  you will not have problems.  The soap releases the glass as does oil.  I use very little glass for cleaning engine parts (last resort).  Even with plastic you have to wash the parts, but you will not be making a big grinder like glass will.
L8tr
Steve


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8/27/2014 8:47 AM  #11


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I never use sand! I buy my abraisive from   consolidatedstripping.com  and use their Black Magnum, it is great. It lasts a long time in my cabinet and is not as dusty as most others. Sand is dangerous to your health. The only other thing I use is cast steel shot for shot peening.

 

8/28/2014 9:37 AM  #12


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Not meanining to change  the sujbject  but the glass talk brought  back something I was told years ago about a glass powder you could get at the drug store of all places you'd mix it with water and paint your cast aluminum parts then bake them in the oven( Sounds like powder coating but this was years before that) the resulting finish would't absorb oil or dirt it was an old biker trick. Any one ever hear of this?
Thanks for the media Ideas  all good as usual


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