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3/12/2015 2:28 PM  #1


66 289 guide plates

I have a set of 289 heads that are ported quite a bit with 1.6/2.02 valves in them on my 88 stang and looking at the guide plates they were all crooked from the machine shop and I'm straightening them out.  My question is what should I safely torque them to?

 

3/12/2015 2:44 PM  #2


Re: 66 289 guide plates

Trotb4UGallop wrote:

I have a set of 289 heads that are ported quite a bit with 1.6/2.02 valves in them on my 88 stang and looking at the guide plates they were all crooked from the machine shop and I'm straightening them out.  My question is what should I safely torque them to?

The 289 heads have machined slots for the pushrods already so I'm wondering why you feel you need guide plates?  In any case, I assume you have screw-in studs, so the torque should be specific to the rocker arm stud mfg.  Check ARP's site.
 


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3/12/2015 2:59 PM  #3


Re: 66 289 guide plates

Well from my understanding and I'm no amateur in this lol,  the hi-po heads and maybe some others had the slots and some did not.  I know the plates are much tighter than the holes that the rods come thru,  the roller rockers I have move all over the place without the plates although I havn't run them without. The original studs were push in originally.  Honestly I really dont like the whole metal to metal idea to keep the rods aligned but I got the heads in a seemingly good deal and many people know how that goes.  After a new fuel pump and everything else that was not up to par the engine is strong as can be so I'm happy with it for what it is.  Learning costs money eh?

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3/12/2015 3:10 PM  #4


Re: 66 289 guide plates

If your heads have the slots in them, do not use the aftermarket steel guideplates.  If your heads have the open holes for the pushrods, the guideplates will work fine IF you use hardened pushrods.  Stockers will get eaten alive.

I have looked at the alignment issues that typically result from the guideplates.  As you are doing, just get them as straight as possible.  Hopefully whoever installed the screw-in studs also milled off the appropriate amount from the stud bosses to keep all the geometry correct in the valvetrain.

As for torque...  What size are the threads attaching the rocker studs to the heads?  They could be 5/16", 3/8" or 7/16" and it makes a big difference in the torque you can put on them..You can get torque specs for any diameter of bolt on several engineering web sites.  Just look up grade 8 coarse thread bolt under the diameter of the threads on your application.  Google BOLT TORQUE.

Also, some of those studs screw into a water jacket on the earlier heads, so be sure to put sealer on them if they do on yours.


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3/12/2015 3:22 PM  #5


Re: 66 289 guide plates

Thanks, 
                 The guideplates were installed by a reputable machine shop and I have been running hardened rods, I was a little bit disappointed to see some coolant come out when I loosened the first stud but it did have some type of sealant on it, I'm going with ultra grey to reseal it.  The plates not being square with the straight edges on the block is what surprised me concerning valve train geometry but thats not bad if thats the worst of my problems.  I took the valve covers off to investigate a rattling sound following a bad injector that hydrolocked my engine and it resulted in a bent valve.

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3/12/2015 3:39 PM  #6


Re: 66 289 guide plates

The holes are perfectly round that the rods come through and if I remember correctly that is a deciding factor in whether or not the heads have premachined guide holes.  They are already machined for them but the piece of mind is nice to know that it is right as it going to get without an expensive rail rocker setup for the heads.

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3/12/2015 3:44 PM  #7


Re: 66 289 guide plates

I searched and found 52lbs for 7/16 grade 8 coarse thread bolts,  just figured I'd mention it in case somebody had a comment on it.  It does seem consistent with the way it felt when I removed it.

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3/13/2015 7:47 AM  #8


Re: 66 289 guide plates

I have started using the Comp Cams adjustable guide plates so I can get each rocker centered on the valve just right.

 

3/14/2015 8:16 AM  #9


Re: 66 289 guide plates

Yeah I think I noticed the adjustable plates after I had ordered the stud and plate set.  Mine were slightly twisted from the tightening of the bolts wo holding the plates in place.  Out of the 16 there were 2 that I really didnt like, but no damage.  I'd probably go with full adjustables next time.

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