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i am currently looking for a t5, i found one, it iwas removed from a fox bodied shelby,(what year would that have been) secondly would it be a world class or what? i was told it was"blown up" not really sure what that would meen either. suggestions?
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Do you know if the t5 still has a metal tag on it?
If it does, post all the numbers stamped on the tag and we can provide further info.
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I don't believe there were "Fox bodied Shelby's".
If the seller told you that, I'd question and verify everything else he says about the trans.
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look at the bearing retainer in the fromt of the trans . . the left one is non world class the right is wotld class . . the right has a sharper edge on the inside of the raised lip.
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I bought a T5z from summit racing 2 years ago for 1495 inlcuding free freight shipping. Autozone sells rebuilt transmissions for around $900. That should give you an idea on what to expect.
If you scan craisglist they'll come up from time to time at around $200. You can find rebuild kits all over the place and some fairly decent instructional videos. If you're just pulling a T5 off the junk pile this would probably be your best bet. This asumes that you're paying for more than just the case. In the end you might spend just as much trying to rebuild it than just buying one. People have shoved T5 trannys in just about anything w/ 4 wheels so there are no shortage of them.
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www.5speeds.com has a tag decoder that can decode your metal tag and tell you what the trans is.
There were definitely no Fox body Shelbys. Cobras, yes, in '93, but no Shelbys. Sounds dubious.
I would recommend www.hanlonmotorsports.com for your rebuild kits and parts. They sell the best stuff out there. There are a lot of chinese and indian knock off parts out there. Hanlon's kits have Koyo bearings, and they have anthing else you might need (gears, sliders, etc) usually with a choice between good used and new.
I'd be skeptical of bulk rebuilt trannys. Often they just replace anything that's visibly wrong and throw it back together. I've seen shops charge $500 for a rebuild and all they did was install new synchros and reseal it. When I rebuild a trans every bearing, seal, and ring is replaced. I also carefully inspect every part, and anything that doesn't look new gets replaced. A lot of T5s led hard lives. Its not uncommon to see munched engagement teeth on 2nd or 3rd, along with damaged sliders. Of course blown 3rd gears are common, which can break the cluster too. If looking at replacing more than one gear you can buy a whole Z-spec gearset for like $450.
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Yes, there was a Fox Shelby Mustang.
1990 Shelby Mustang SAAC MKI. Only 65 were built. Plans were to make a small run of them but, Ford/SVT began work on their own higher performance Mustang than the production 5.0L GT. The result was the '93 Cobra and the '93 Cobra R.
1990 Shelby.
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I'm not saying I don't believe that, but I've never heard of it. I know Fox bodys pretty well. I'm familiar with the rarer ones like the ASC McLarens, '93 Cobra, '93 Cobra R, but I've never heard of a Shelby variant. So, I did some searching, and other than the photo provided, with no description I cannot find anything about a 1990 Shelby. It isn't even listed on Wikipedia, etc. 65 isn't a large production run, but it should be enough to at least make a list somewhere. Also, in the '90s Shelby was working with Dodge, not Ford. This was when he was putting his name on cars like the GLHS, etc.
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Val, check with Glen at
he's sharp on T5s. He's a pretty good guy and a member on hereOffline
I'll second Terry's recommendation.
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TKOPerformance wrote:
I'm not saying I don't believe that, but I've never heard of it. I know Fox bodys pretty well. I'm familiar with the rarer ones like the ASC McLarens, '93 Cobra, '93 Cobra R, but I've never heard of a Shelby variant. So, I did some searching, and other than the photo provided, with no description I cannot find anything about a 1990 Shelby. It isn't even listed on Wikipedia, etc. 65 isn't a large production run, but it should be enough to at least make a list somewhere. Also, in the '90s Shelby was working with Dodge, not Ford. This was when he was putting his name on cars like the GLHS, etc.
Thanks ultrastang for posting that. I remember the magazine article that came out about the SAAC Shelby tribute cars. I don't remember Shelby having anything to do with any mods on the cars (could be wrong - just don't remember) They were a Shelby American AUTO CLUB tribute to the older Shelbys. Lots of stripes as I recall. Certainly nothing special as far as performance.
But anyway... A T5 that has been blown up? Go see Glen Buzek at Steve's Mustang in Waller, TX. Glen will build whatever you want for a very reasonable price. And it probably won't ever blow up.
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So by that logic they were not sold through Ford dealers, or only certain Ford dealers?
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ok i may have mis spoke, it was a cobra (no shelby) my bad. i am working on seeing if there is a tag on the trans.
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Are you sure on the "blown up" part? I know guys who "blow apart" things when they overhaul them...
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A cobra trans is desirable, they had a few upgrades. The easist way to tell is pull the input bearing retainer. If it uses individual rollers for a bearing on the input shaft its a regular T5. If there's a small tapered roller bearing pressed onto the end of the mainshaft and a cup in the bearing retainer its a Cobra spec box. 4 13mm bolts and it'll tell you the tale.
There's nothing going to be broken in it that's not repairable unless the case got wiped out, which is very rare. In fact I've never seen it. Blown 3rd gears are common, and sometimes they also break the teeth on the cluster gear when that happens, but a Z-spec gear kit is like $450 for 1/2/3/4 and the cluster. Probably still worth repairing.
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when scott told me his son blew up, he was driving the car. i suspect it's going to be at least one gear set
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Not to split hairs, but so everyone understands there's no such thing as individual gear sets in a T5. The 1-4 speed gears all ride on the mainshaft, and each has its own gear, but they all interface with the cluster gear in the bottom of the case, which has all 4 forward speeds on one gear. So, if you blow a gear and it damages the cluster you are replacing the whole cluster gear as well as the speed gear on the mainshaft. Again though, if you go into it figuring on a Z-spec gear kit you'll be right there. To buy a speed gear and a cluster gear you are going to be well more than half way to a Z-spec kit anyway, unless you go with used parts.
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The gearbox has t5z kit $500, and summit racing rebuild kit just over $300. Don't pay more then $50-100 for a broken t5 those are called cores and not with much. The easiest way to id nwc vs wc is the large torx bolt for wc dr side top of case vs 6 sided hex bolt for nwc
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