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Installing my exhaust kit on my 65 FB and was wondering if anyone has any pictures of how they mated an H-pipe to a set of tri-Y headers? I can get close, but I'm going to have to do some tweaking and I'm trying to figure out whether to move the H-pipe rearward. Also, I've pretty much concluded that any way will require removing the H-pipe to drop my T-5, so I'm wondering if I should weld on some kind of flange on the rear of the H-pipes and the front of the intermediate pipes so it can be easily unbolted and removed while leaving the intermediate pipe rearward undisturbed. Thanks.
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Not the same except same in principal. I have a Magnaflow blot together exhaust system, Several things I've done working on the car have been made easier by the un-bolting & bolting of exhaust sections. I like it.
Tubo
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My preference when installing an h-pipe under a manual transmission is to put the crossover right behind the transmission tail end. That way if you are removing the transmission for some reason, you can slide it back far enough to disengage from the bellhousing and lower the front by hand while the h-pipe supports the tail end. It can be very helpful to have it there. Once the front of the tranny is on the ground or otherwise under control, then you can slide it forward and pull the tail from its perch atop the h-pipe.
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MustangSteve wrote:
My preference when installing an h-pipe under a manual transmission is to put the crossover right behind the transmission tail end. That way if you are removing the transmission for some reason, you can slide it back far enough to disengage from the bellhousing and lower the front by hand while the h-pipe supports the tail end. It can be very helpful to have it there. Once the front of the tranny is on the ground or otherwise under control, then you can slide it forward and pull the tail from its perch atop the h-pipe.
All the way after the tailshaft?
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Thanks. Picked up four today.
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The h pipe didn't come close to fitting our tri-ys. I thought about trying to weld up flages square enough to get good seal with a gasket, after cutting to get things lined up correctly, and decided to go a different way.
Bought a pair of "header buddies". They are ball connectors that you weld on the end of the h pipe. They bolt up to the header collector 3 bolt flanges and seal with no gasket. They allow a fair bit of wiggle room for imprecise cutting and fitting of the h pipe and create a great leakproof seal.
Highly recommend.
Bob
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The h pipe didn't come close to fitting our tri-ys. I thought about trying to weld up flages square enough to get good seal with a gasket, after cutting to get things lined up correctly, and decided to go a different way.
Bought a pair of "header buddies". They are ball connectors that you weld on the end of the h pipe. They bolt up to the header collector 3 bolt flanges and seal with no gasket. They allow a fair bit of wiggle room for imprecise cutting and fitting of the h pipe and create a great leakproof seal.
Highly recommend.
Bob
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Thanks for the ideas. I've installed the mufflers and tailpipes I ordered but I've given up on trying to use the H-pipe and intermediate pipes because they're not even close. Weird that the intermediate pipes have 6 or so small bends along their lengths but are so far off. Any way, I'm going to have these parts made by a muffler shop. I can't take my car over there so I'm using 2" PVC pipe and 22.5 and 45 degree fittings to mock up the intermediate pipes so I can tuck them up next to the driveshaft. My plan is to get those made and installed and then weld in the H-pipe near the end of the T-5 tailshaft. I want to be able to easly remove them so I'm going to weld header flanges on the front of the mufflers. I'm going to do the same to the ends of the intermediate pipes, but leave maybe 3/4" to slide into the muffler. I'll post some photos when I'm done.
Has anyone installed JBA Tri-Y headers and X-pipe with a T-5 on a 65 w/289. They say they are not designed to for a T-5. Hit Bell Housing ?
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Other than "stabilizing" the entire exhaust system......H/X pipes do little for street power. It does change the sound and maybe reduce the probability of droning...but power boost?!??..........Not so much.
IF you have a nice lopey cam(if you go for that stuff!) it will mask it or at least the music it makes.
I have the X pipe and would do without it IF I ever change the exhaust system.
Maybe you should too!??!
6s6
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Not installing some kind of crossover pipe, whether H or X, is a guarantee that you will blow through header gaskets at the upper ports/head connection. With nothing to keep the pipes from moving independently, the gasket at the top becomes the sacrificial soft hinge point of the entire exhaust system. With both pipes tied together securely, the headers are stabilized and will not rock back and forth. The header upper gaskets will then last a whole lot longer, plus the header upper flange bolts do not loosen up.
If for no other reason, that one is a good reason to install a crossover pipe of some kind.
I also like those ball/socket type pipe connections with two sturdy bolts. They do work well. I have them on my headers.
Last edited by MS (5/18/2016 8:34 AM)
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I have used a rigid cross brace between the pipes for the reason Steve mentioned instead of a X or H pipe. One was just a piece of angle iron and a couple of muffler clamps. The power gain of the X or H is more noticeable at some points in the power band. Not always at peak power. Road racers may get more advantage than drag racers. Most I have tested gave a boost in power at such a low rev that is was mostly useless for me. They do destroy that nice LOUD crisp rumble.
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This is the exhaust system on a friends car, I have never seen one quite like it.
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Terry, we need a sound clip of this arrangement!
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