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8/25/2015 7:27 PM  #1


Educate me on Flywheels

I'm in need of a 164 tooth 28 oz flywheel. A quick google will produce different options anywhere between $90 and $400. Why? What's the big difference?

At around 400 HP when I'm all done, what would be my incentive to spend $400 when there are $90 options? Especially when the budget is tightening up, first young'un is expected any day now...

 

8/25/2015 7:52 PM  #2


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

HAVEaSigAR wrote:

I'm in need of a 164 tooth 28 oz flywheel. A quick google will produce different options anywhere between $90 and $400. Why? What's the big difference?

At around 400 HP when I'm all done, what would be my incentive to spend $400 when there are $90 options? Especially when the budget is tightening up, first young'un is expected any day now...

Do you plan to test the upper limits of your cam specs?  Would you rather not have the car..and your feets sawed in half?  Speed costs money.  Safety costs even more.  How fast do you want to go...more or less safely?

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8/25/2015 8:08 PM  #3


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

So if I don't drop 4 hundo on a flywheel, my feet get sawed off? Seems questionable to me. Still don't understand the difference.

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8/25/2015 8:13 PM  #4


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

The cheaper ones are cast (iron) in China sometimes machined there too.  The upper price range are usually made of steel and maybe have an SFI rating, but even these may be made in China.  What I am getting at is the poorer quality of machining, casting (China) would make me nervous with it spinning next to my feet.  If I was going with a cast flywheel, for a cruiser only no racing, I would go with a Ford factory flywheel properly rebuilt. If you will race it even occasionaly, go for a SFI rated one by a well known company.  That is just my take.

Last edited by Redhorse719 (8/25/2015 8:27 PM)

 

8/25/2015 10:12 PM  #5


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

Do what I did: There was no way I wass going to risk my legs on a cheap chinese flywheel.  So I decided which of these I needed:

https://fordperformanceracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=11023

(in my case M-6375-A302B), and found it on craiglist for $100.  You could also search ebay.  There are a lot of cheap chinese parts available that don't adhere to our standards of safety, don't come from manufacturers that pay their people a living wage, don't have to adhere to our environmental regulations, etc. - the list is long.  Just don't, especially for a flywheel.


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8/25/2015 10:42 PM  #6


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

Ok I won't cheap out on the flywheel, although aren't I still at risk using a factory cast iron bellhousing?

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8/26/2015 5:03 AM  #7


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

For a street car the chances that a flywheel will explode are pretty much zero.  You won't be able to shock load it enough on street tires.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy the $110 billet flywheel.  I would get it checked at the machine shop, but I would do that with any flywheel, especially since the shop needs it to properly balance the rotating assembly. 

 

8/26/2015 6:56 AM  #8


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

I was just back from Viet Nam and was riding in a friends 1938 Chevy. It had a souped up 327 and ran pretty good. A Road Runner pulled up next to us and the race was on. As my friend shifted into 3rd there was an explosion and I was sure a grenade had went off. Upon pulling over and checking the car it looked like a grenade had went off in the car. Big holes in floor and tunnel. How we both escaped with no injuries I never know.

 

8/26/2015 8:24 AM  #9


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

Saw one explode.once.at.the.drag.strip  part.of.it.went.through the.roof.and it.sounded.like.hail.falling.all.around.d.us!!,   now this was in the sixties and we were all bullet proof back then....it was a side oiler in a mustang  that was stretched out in second gear!!!!!


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8/26/2015 9:41 AM  #10


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

Billet steel is the way to go in any kind of performance vehicle.  TMD sells one real reasonable.  I have used them and they are good quality.
SFI rated flywheels are tested and race certified to do whatever that spec calls for.  Most inexpensive ones are not SFI certified. On the street it is usually not necessary to have that level of performance, but if you are going to see 6,000 RPM often, go with SFI certified.
I have been using the Ford Racing flywheels.  That is what I have behind my 427.  It is billet steel and under $300.

Be sure you know the imbalance weight that your engine requires and get a flywheel to match.

If you have concerns of high RPM blasts with alot of power, you MAY want to buy a steel SFI certified bellhousing to be safe.  It will cost alot but will be safer and is designed to contain exploding flywheels and clutches.  They can have drawbacks, though, such as not being as concentric with the crankshaft as a factory unit.  Smmetimes they have to be indexed with offset dowels installed, which is a major PITA.


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8/26/2015 4:16 PM  #11


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

The stories posted above were certainly cars that has cast iron flywheels, as that's what they were all made from in OEM aplications.  There's a world of difference between billet steel and cast iron, SFI certified or not.  I've run plenty of factory flywheels to 6,000+RPM (7,000+ in my WRX) and never had an issue.  Now, when I upgrade the clutch or its time to replace it I often upgrade the flywheel as well.  Dropping some mass there can really help the motor spin up.  Don't go too light though or you cna get idle instability, stalling on deceleration, etc.  The one in my IROC weighs 11 lbs. I think.  I had to adjust the IAC steps in the PROM to keep it from stalling when I pushed the clutch in.  The engine accelerates fast, but deccelerates just as fast.  Hindsight being what it is I'd have gone heavier. 

 

8/26/2015 7:45 PM  #12


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

I have got them all, stock cast iron ( no fun to drive ),  lighter billet steel ( revs better more fun ), and real light aluminum ( most fun to drive, but a pain to get installed correctly ). I recommend the billet steel for ease of install and most reliable fun. My 65 has an aluminum very light flywheel which requires a deliberate driving style. It also has a fair bit of cam. So it requires a driving style that relys on slipping tires not clutch. I love it!! Oh it also does not have any mufflers.

 

8/27/2015 8:58 PM  #13


Re: Educate me on Flywheels

DC wrote:

I have got them all, stock cast iron ( no fun to drive ),  lighter billet steel ( revs better more fun ), and real light aluminum ( most fun to drive, but a pain to get installed correctly ). I recommend the billet steel for ease of install and most reliable fun. My 65 has an aluminum very light flywheel which requires a deliberate driving style. It also has a fair bit of cam. So it requires a driving style that relys on slipping tires not clutch. I love it!! Oh it also does not have any mufflers.

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