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I had purchased the mustang Steve pedal assembly and clutch cable conversion kit for my '65 coupe and had a set of Hedman long tube headers modified to allow proper routing of the clutch cable. This was modeled after a fox body t5 setup. I ended up going with a 94/95 t5 and bell housing instead, which will not allow me to properly route the clutch cable without interfering with the headers, due to clutch fork being in a different position.
I am considering doing a hydraulic clutch conversion. My question is, is the Scott drake clutch pedal compatible with the mustang Steve pedal housing? I realize I could modify the mustang Steve clutch pedal but I'd prefer not to do that if the Scott drake pedal will plug right in. My second question is, are there any known long tube headers that are compatible with the mustang Steve clutch cable conversion when used with a 94/95 t5? TIA
Last edited by 50 Proof (12/29/2015 12:08 AM)
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I have the cable clutch on my 95 Mustang and on my 65 Mustang which has the MS pedal assy. Both work well with the BBK long tubes. I had to shorten the headers a bit to get them off of the ground on the 65.Both headers are for the SN95 so they are a bit low hanging for the 65. I also have removed the shock towers and converted to the MII type front suspension. BUT, I have routed several clutch cables around headers and other things. On the 95, I have a piece of tubing over the cable where it passes against the header tubes with some header wrap around the cable inside the tube.
I have no problems now with heat on the cable. The clutch I have in the 95 is a race clutch and very stout, so I have broken a couple of the plastic ends on the cables. I found a cable at Summit that has metal ends and that one has not had an issue.
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The clutch pedal on my pedal assembly has the shaft designed exactly like a stock pedal, so it should interchange with any other pedal having stock configuration. I would avoid those clutch pedals that use a bolt for the shaft. Even the originals with the swedged shaft come loose over time, so I cannot imagine those lasting very long.
I have some good used original clutch pedals if you need one.
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How much less pedal effort is required for a hydraulic clutch set-up compared to a cable clutch? Also, are there any benefits to choosing a slave cylinder over a hydraulic throwout bearing?
Drew
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airdrew99 wrote:
How much less pedal effort is required for a hydraulic clutch set-up compared to a cable clutch? Also, are there any benefits to choosing a slave cylinder over a hydraulic throwout bearing?
Drew
I have the MS cable assembly on my 66 coupe 289 T5 . I've owned other vehicles with hydraulics and I see no difference. The operation is smooth and pedal effort is minimal.
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The only thing I do not like about my 2015 GT 5.0 six speed is the feel of the clutch. Or I should say, the lack of feel of the clutch. It is terrible. The cable on my 66 works so much better for clutch feel.
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I agree, MS the feel is much better and I have had to pull transmissions and engines to fix those darn hydraulic throw-out bearings too many times. My daughter can change a clutch cable in less than 10 minutes.
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DC wrote:
I agree, MS the feel is much better and I have had to pull transmissions and engines to fix those darn hydraulic throw-out bearings too many times. My daughter can change a clutch cable in less than 10 minutes.
GREAT picture!
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ah yes. Car Yoga.
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MustangSteve wrote:
DC wrote:
I agree, MS the feel is much better and I have had to pull transmissions and engines to fix those darn hydraulic throw-out bearings too many times. My daughter can change a clutch cable in less than 10 minutes.
GREAT picture!
Great Daughter!
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I'm looking to do the Mustang Steve clutch cable conversion on my 66 Mustang convertible. I have a 302 and BBK long tube headers. I got some pictures of the ball stud added to the bell housing so I can use the fox body clutch fork. My question is; Where exactly does the ball stud need to be installed and how high does it need to stick up?
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To convert a stock toploader type bellousing to cable actuation, you must weld in a plate to thread a ballstud into.
You will need to do a mockup in order to locate the stud position and adjust its height. Take the bellhousing and bolt it to the transmission. Then slide the Fox 5.0 throwout bearing onto the transmission bearing retainer, with the release lever correctly clipped to the bearing. With the long end of the lever centered in the bellhousing window, it will then be perfectly obvious where the ballstud needs to be. This does not have to be perfect since there is some wiggle room where the bearing fits on the lever arm. Be sure the lever is centered vertically in the bellhousing window.
Once you have the ballstud mounted, its height must be adjusted. To do that, you will need another mockup. This time, install the block plate on the engine and the flywheel and clutch on the flywheel. Then install the bellhousing on the engine with the lever arm and bearing in place. Adjust the ballstud height so the release lever is within 1/8" of the rear of the bellhousing window while the throwout bearing is in contact with the pressure plate fingers.
That is all there is to it.
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MustangSteve wrote:
The clutch pedal on my pedal assembly has the shaft designed exactly like a stock pedal, so it should interchange with any other pedal having stock configuration. I would avoid those clutch pedals that use a bolt for the shaft. Even the originals with the swedged shaft come loose over time, so I cannot imagine those lasting very long.
I have some good used original clutch pedals if you need one.
Can you PM me a price for one of your original clutch pedals?
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