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6/26/2013 9:22 PM  #1


Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

My mom's 02 Tauruswith a 3.0 6 cyl had a miss in it,  went to Autozone and they pulled codes.  Misfire on cyl 1, further reading pointed to crankcaes sensor.  Replaced it!  still missing  decided to pull #1 plug, found plug wire melted in half!  replaced wires still missing!  autozone couldnt diagnose cause it was not throwing codes.  I stopped by a mechanics shop close to my house.  He pulled the wires off the coil pack and inserted 2" pieces of vacuum hose in the plug wire ends then shoved it back in the pack,  he then started the car, took a standard automotive test light connected it to the neg post and placed it against the peices of tubing and it sparked and lit the light till he got to #1 and it wouldnt spark!  he said #1 was dead!
I know less than nothing about newer cars, till today NOW I know nothing!!

 

6/27/2013 6:12 AM  #2


Re: Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

That is a cool trick.  Will have to remember that!  Better than just replacing all 8 at once like I did on a Crown Vic and 2002 T-Bird with only 50k miles.

Somebody figured out a good way to make repeat money with those coils.  How many of you have the ORIGINAL coil operating ALL 8 CYLINDERS on your car?  I still haven't figured out a good reason to change that, but I am like Terry.  But I know NEXT TO NOTHING about the new stuff!


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

6/27/2013 11:38 AM  #3


Re: Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

Interesting trick.

I test coil packs and wires by using my inductive timing light.   By putting the clip on each wire one at a time while the engine is running

Can find a lot of misfires that way.

My guess is that short piece of vacuum tubing allows for what is called a series gap.  when he gets the test probe close enough to the coil, the gap was "jumping"  from the coil to the wire (or in some cases in reverse as a lot of those coil packs only fire one time and one bank is negative to positive: google wasted spark ignition)  anyway when he gets the probe close enough, the electricity takes the path of least resistance and jumps to the probe , instead of the wire.    


Can learn a lot from the old time mechanics, like when I watched one diagnose a wrist pin by spraying water into the carb.   Lots of old tricks going by the wayside with all the computer technologies......still cant compete with instincts and skillfully learned experience.  

edit: a little info about igntion system types by a spark plug maufactuer
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/docs/tech/New%20Ign%20Systems-Long%20Life%20Plugs.pdf

Last edited by Greg B (6/27/2013 11:45 AM)


If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
 

6/27/2013 1:50 PM  #4


Re: Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

Reading that article by NGK ans wasted spark eroding the plugs faster makes me wonder about the plug life on a capacitive disharge system that gives multiple sparks at low rpms to better the idle characteristics.
Discuss!


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6/27/2013 7:33 PM  #5


Re: Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

funny thing this guy is younger than Me!!  prolly 40ish!  He used to work at autozone here in town, thats where I got to know him!  he just decided to open his own shop and is doing quite well!  of course with that type of knowledge he prolly will continue

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6/27/2013 8:31 PM  #6


Re: Found a interesting way to test a coil pack!!

t, et al......if you ever change a coil pack on a ford, go with motorcraft....that goes for plugs too.
I fought that on my '98 F-150 with the 4.2L.....wasted money until I got edubakated and went back to Motorcraft parts.

Now my 03, with the 5.4L is completely different because it has COPS....Coil Over Plugs so, I get to buy eight of those puppies when I do my next full tune up....but, they'll be Motorcraft as well....

 

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