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8/29/2016 6:46 PM  #1


Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Today was the first time I drove it since getting home from the BASH.  I had to rebuild the bracket for the driver side power window motor and trace down a short, caused by that broken bracket, in the power door lock circuit.

Since I was in there (sigh) I bought  new power door lock remote controller.  One of my old remotes quit working and the second one needed a new battery.  For $15.00 shipped, I got an entire new remote control setup.  It has the two door locks plus a wire for trunk release and two to make the lights blink when locked and two to operate the power windows remotely.  I opted to just use the door lock function.

Next, I need to go to the car wash and remove the bug medley from the oil pan, lower control arms, AC condenser and the bottom of my hood, where all the bugs that went through the fan wound up, in  lots of tiny pieces.  I did clean them off the exterior of the car as soon as I got home, but the rest of them have been "curing" since the end of June.

Also, I am praying that the miracle cure REAR MAIN SEAL REPAIR liquid crap I bought (IT'S GUARANTEED!!!) stops the rear main seal leakage that came about on the trip.  Not holding my breath, ... praying...

It was sure nice to get the car out and on the road again.  Two shows are coming up on the tenth of Sept.  Getzendaner park in Waxahachie in the morning is always a great show.  Lots of huge shade trees.  Then, the local club's cruise at Cancun's Restaurant in the afternoon.  If anyone is interested in joining me at one or both, just drop me a line for details.


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8/29/2016 8:17 PM  #2


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Great to here MS, those bugs are terrible to get out. I went on a 100 mile cruise up to Banff Alberta got bugged  the size of of eggs. Cleaned them off at car wash and then did a oil change and there must of been a 1000 of them under engine.I was washing under the car with a the garden hoseThe neigbour walked buy and just shook his head. Nice and clean again.Some people just don't get it. But we all do


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8/29/2016 8:31 PM  #3


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

MS wrote:

Today was the first time I drove it since getting home from the BASH.  I had to rebuild the bracket for the driver side power window motor and trace down a short, caused by that broken bracket, in the power door lock circuit.

Since I was in there (sigh) I bought  new power door lock remote controller.  One of my old remotes quit working and the second one needed a new battery.  For $15.00 shipped, I got an entire new remote control setup.  It has the two door locks plus a wire for trunk release and two to make the lights blink when locked and two to operate the power windows remotely.  I opted to just use the door lock function.

Next, I need to go to the car wash and remove the bug medley from the oil pan, lower control arms, AC condenser and the bottom of my hood, where all the bugs that went through the fan wound up, in  lots of tiny pieces.  I did clean them off the exterior of the car as soon as I got home, but the rest of them have been "curing" since the end of June.

Also, I am praying that the miracle cure REAR MAIN SEAL REPAIR liquid crap I bought (IT'S GUARANTEED!!!) stops the rear main seal leakage that came about on the trip.  Not holding my breath, ... praying...

It was sure nice to get the car out and on the road again.  Two shows are coming up on the tenth of Sept.  Getzendaner park in Waxahachie in the morning is always a great show.  Lots of huge shade trees.  Then, the local club's cruise at Cancun's Restaurant in the afternoon.  If anyone is interested in joining me at one or both, just drop me a line for details.

  Tell me more about the Miracle Rear Main Seal Repair?   Whats it called? After changing the seal twice I gave up until I buy a new engine.  I will not take that pan off again while in the car.  Steve69
 

 

8/29/2016 8:45 PM  #4


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

It says it has to be driven for a few days to work. I will give a report on it after a few drives.


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8/30/2016 6:59 AM  #5


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

A lot of times sealant is not applied to the mating surfaces between the block and the rear main cap....jj


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8/30/2016 9:40 AM  #6


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Will that miracle sealer crap work on the front seal or do you have to by Miracle Front Sealer for that?


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8/30/2016 2:14 PM  #7


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

So I have to ask: what kind of a crankcase ventilation system do you have?  Any potential problems there?


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8/31/2016 8:37 AM  #8


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

jkordzi wrote:

So I have to ask: what kind of a crankcase ventilation system do you have?  Any potential problems there?

Vented to atmosphere filtered intake on the driver valve cover.  PCV valve on passenger side.
 


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8/31/2016 10:29 PM  #9


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

MS wrote:

jkordzi wrote:

So I have to ask: what kind of a crankcase ventilation system do you have?  Any potential problems there?

Vented to atmosphere filtered intake on the driver valve cover.  PCV valve on passenger side.
 

Well that doesn't sound like it's the problem then.  Hope that magic seal elixir works.  At least if you have to replace the seal I'm guessing your block has the one piece type.
 


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9/01/2016 7:17 PM  #10


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

For what it's worth, when I used to work at Advanced Auto Parts, Blue Devil engine block sealer was the only one our professional garages would use.  But, it cost like $60. They say it works.

 

9/05/2016 3:13 PM  #11


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Oh man, the bugs are the WORST. I just got home from a 2-week, 5000 mile trip to Reno from Austin. Bugs everywhere, all the time! Grasshopper corpses in the intake! Bees in the radiator! But the worst is the dragonflies. I think Jane just has some grudge against dragonflies. They get stuck in the radiator, they get stuck in the crack in between the hood and the fender, they get stuck in the windshield trim, they get stuck under the wipers, they get plastered across the valance and bumper.... ugh!!! One even ended up halfway BEHIND the headlight bucket and I have no idea how. So gross. I hate when they are still moving when I have to pick them out of the cracks. 

I too had experience with a "snake oil" type product while in Reno... car has been blowing blue smoke though apparently it hasn't been reaching the plugs (????). Put in an oil thickener to hopefully keep it from burning oil on the way home. It may have worked, but it sure didn't keep the car from blowing smoke... lol.


"Calamity Jane" - Insane road warrior powered by hopes and dreams and piloted by an idiot.
 

9/05/2016 5:14 PM  #12


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Kelly_H wrote:

I just got home from a 2-week, 5000 mile trip to Reno from Austin.

So...you can do Austin to Reno and back which dang near requires you to pass within a couple of miles of Montrose but you can't even holler "Hey" as you roar by.  Okay, I understand.

Butt (TS&T), I hope you had a great trip and get Jane all scrapped off.  What's with the blue smoke? Thought you just rebuilt the engine.  Did you rebuild the heads...new valve seals? 

BB


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9/05/2016 5:30 PM  #13


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Bullet Bob wrote:

Kelly_H wrote:

I just got home from a 2-week, 5000 mile trip to Reno from Austin.

So...you can do Austin to Reno and back which dang near requires you to pass within a couple of miles of Montrose but you can't even holler "Hey" as you roar by.  Okay, I understand.

Butt (TS&T), I hope you had a great trip and get Jane all scrapped off.  What's with the blue smoke? Thought you just rebuilt the engine.  Did you rebuild the heads...new valve seals? 

BB

Ha! I was nowhere near Montrose Took Austin to ABQ to Vegas to Reno to Baker to St. George to ABQ to Austin. I sure wish I had been near Montrose... much nicer drive than some of New Mexico and Nevada.

Engine smoke has been chalked up to witchcraft. It smokes most of the time out of the driver's bank. Not mosquito fogger levels but burns a pretty good amount of oil. However, sometimes it doesn't smoke at all. And sometimes it maliciously smokes out of both pipes. Spark plugs are 100% perfect with no evidence of oil even thinking about touching them. No leaks, no coolant in oil, no oil in coolant, car running on all 8, getting good mileage, seems more or less happy though sometimes not all the way "there" in the power department (though might be the EFI acting up). Heads are rebuilt with new valve guides. PCV system perfectly functional. No excess blowby.

There are currently three leading opinions:
1) Witchcraft (most popular opinion)
2) Valve stem seals all not sealing well on the driver's side (requires all seals to be partially sealed, but not all the way sealed, thereby letting a tiny amount of oil into each cylinder, causing plume of smoke in exhaust but no evidence on plugs)
3) Intake gasket blown in a very unusual way, allowing both oil and coolant to get into cylinder at the same time without getting into each other... somehow

Sooooo.... yeah, I'm letting that one brew for a while until I can work up the nerve to swap out the valve stem seals. Kind of don't want to because if I do and then find out that that wasn't the problem, I'll REALLY be struggling to figure out the issue! I would almost rather tell myself that that's the problem and that it's a simple fix that I'm just too lazy to do 


"Calamity Jane" - Insane road warrior powered by hopes and dreams and piloted by an idiot.
 

9/05/2016 5:37 PM  #14


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

A good experience or a bad experience is still knowledge...that's how we learn...do it....jj

Last edited by jerseyjoe (9/05/2016 5:37 PM)


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9/06/2016 1:28 PM  #15


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Kelly_H wrote:

Bullet Bob wrote:

Kelly_H wrote:

I just got home from a 2-week, 5000 mile trip to Reno from Austin.

So...you can do Austin to Reno and back which dang near requires you to pass within a couple of miles of Montrose but you can't even holler "Hey" as you roar by.  Okay, I understand.

Butt (TS&T), I hope you had a great trip and get Jane all scrapped off.  What's with the blue smoke? Thought you just rebuilt the engine.  Did you rebuild the heads...new valve seals? 

BB

Ha! I was nowhere near Montrose Took Austin to ABQ to Vegas to Reno to Baker to St. George to ABQ to Austin. I sure wish I had been near Montrose... much nicer drive than some of New Mexico and Nevada.

Engine smoke has been chalked up to witchcraft. It smokes most of the time out of the driver's bank. Not mosquito fogger levels but burns a pretty good amount of oil. However, sometimes it doesn't smoke at all. And sometimes it maliciously smokes out of both pipes. Spark plugs are 100% perfect with no evidence of oil even thinking about touching them. No leaks, no coolant in oil, no oil in coolant, car running on all 8, getting good mileage, seems more or less happy though sometimes not all the way "there" in the power department (though might be the EFI acting up). Heads are rebuilt with new valve guides. PCV system perfectly functional. No excess blowby.

There are currently three leading opinions:
1) Witchcraft (most popular opinion)
2) Valve stem seals all not sealing well on the driver's side (requires all seals to be partially sealed, but not all the way sealed, thereby letting a tiny amount of oil into each cylinder, causing plume of smoke in exhaust but no evidence on plugs)
3) Intake gasket blown in a very unusual way, allowing both oil and coolant to get into cylinder at the same time without getting into each other... somehow

Sooooo.... yeah, I'm letting that one brew for a while until I can work up the nerve to swap out the valve stem seals. Kind of don't want to because if I do and then find out that that wasn't the problem, I'll REALLY be struggling to figure out the issue! I would almost rather tell myself that that's the problem and that it's a simple fix that I'm just too lazy to do 

What valve covers do you have on it?  And what baffles are inside those valve covers?


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9/06/2016 11:00 PM  #16


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

MS wrote:

Kelly_H wrote:

Bullet Bob wrote:


So...you can do Austin to Reno and back which dang near requires you to pass within a couple of miles of Montrose but you can't even holler "Hey" as you roar by.  Okay, I understand.

Butt (TS&T), I hope you had a great trip and get Jane all scrapped off.  What's with the blue smoke? Thought you just rebuilt the engine.  Did you rebuild the heads...new valve seals? 

BB

Ha! I was nowhere near Montrose Took Austin to ABQ to Vegas to Reno to Baker to St. George to ABQ to Austin. I sure wish I had been near Montrose... much nicer drive than some of New Mexico and Nevada.

Engine smoke has been chalked up to witchcraft. It smokes most of the time out of the driver's bank. Not mosquito fogger levels but burns a pretty good amount of oil. However, sometimes it doesn't smoke at all. And sometimes it maliciously smokes out of both pipes. Spark plugs are 100% perfect with no evidence of oil even thinking about touching them. No leaks, no coolant in oil, no oil in coolant, car running on all 8, getting good mileage, seems more or less happy though sometimes not all the way "there" in the power department (though might be the EFI acting up). Heads are rebuilt with new valve guides. PCV system perfectly functional. No excess blowby.

There are currently three leading opinions:
1) Witchcraft (most popular opinion)
2) Valve stem seals all not sealing well on the driver's side (requires all seals to be partially sealed, but not all the way sealed, thereby letting a tiny amount of oil into each cylinder, causing plume of smoke in exhaust but no evidence on plugs)
3) Intake gasket blown in a very unusual way, allowing both oil and coolant to get into cylinder at the same time without getting into each other... somehow

Sooooo.... yeah, I'm letting that one brew for a while until I can work up the nerve to swap out the valve stem seals. Kind of don't want to because if I do and then find out that that wasn't the problem, I'll REALLY be struggling to figure out the issue! I would almost rather tell myself that that's the problem and that it's a simple fix that I'm just too lazy to do 

What valve covers do you have on it?  And what baffles are inside those valve covers?

Standard Cobra valve covers. Standard baffles as far as I know.

If you're thinking PCV issue... some more info: the bottom of the PCV valve is 3/4" above the baffle. Unplugging the PCV does not cause the smoke to quit blowing. PCV valve is fully functional (can feel it sucking against my palm).

Smoke only blowing on driver's side; no crossover pipes, so issue has to be limited to driver's side within the top end.

Certainly odd!


"Calamity Jane" - Insane road warrior powered by hopes and dreams and piloted by an idiot.
 

9/07/2016 9:38 PM  #17


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Great to hear from you Kelly!  I keep asking my daughter if she's seen Jane around campus, but no luck.

 

9/08/2016 1:21 AM  #18


Re: Finally my fastback is back on the road again

Probably way off base, here, but I had similar issues with a carbureted motor years ago.  Seems the intake had an exhaust bypass channel running under the carb base area in the middle of the intake.  The channel is supposed to warm the carb with hot exhaust gas.  Heads have oblong outlets that mate up to a sort of tulip shaped hole on the intake.   If the gasket is off just a little bit, a leak is created that will suck oil into the exhaust stream and cause an intermittent ( or constant ) oil smoke cloud.  Plugs won't foul, but the back of the car will get oil mist residue on it. 
Best,
Al


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