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8/23/2016 1:43 PM  #101


Re: bore to 347?

I have never had to enlarge the hole in any AFR head. But I have had to open up the hole where the rocker stud holds the guide plate to the head so I could get a little more room the slide the guide plate  to get the push rod in the proper location. Those guide plates have the slotted tangs for alignment so you can center the rocker arm tip on the end of the valve. Just once in a great while I've needed more hole clearance to get it perfect. For starters, I would loosen the rocker stud and see it the guide plate will slide over a little more to center the rocker and get the pushrod away from the hole in the head. Make sure you check to see if the rocker arm stud hole goes through into a water passage or runner and use sealer on it if it does.

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9/03/2016 1:47 PM  #102


Re: bore to 347?

Well after a long wait and a bit of unforeseen hurdles, long block is home and on a stand so I can finish some of the assembly of the bolt on parts. Might start a new thread for that as this one has become lengthy. A few pictures of the if I can from my tablet, thanks for all the assistance in getting me to this point.!


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9/09/2016 9:56 PM  #103


Re: bore to 347?

We just got our fresh 347 running in our 66 coupe.  Has about 3 hours on it so far.  Bought the 347 kit from Skip White Performance on Ebay.  It comes balanced with the balancer and flexplate for around $1k. It has extra-height forged Wiseco pistons, so they have a nice thick top and easy to zero deck on a slightly decked block. We had our machine shop work a 90 302 roller block for us and install the rotating assembly into the short block. Total machine shop bill was about $900. They thought the rotating assembly was a nice kit.

I had Skip balance it with a flywheel (t5z transmission) for an extra $100, but that turned out to be a mistake because i wanted a flywheel for a 10.5" fox clutch and the flywheels Skip has are the 289/302 10" bolt pattern.  They didn't drill the flywheel when they balanced it so i swapped it out for the fox flywheel we had on the old 289, so all is good.

We put edelbrock performer heads with 2.02 valves and scorpion 1.6 roller rockers, an edelbrock rpm intake,  edelbrock 650 cfm thunder carb and a Comp magnum 270hr cam in it, with tri-y headers and 2 1/4" dual h-pipe exhaust.

No dyno on it yet,  but it will spin the tires hard in 2nd if I hammer it while cruising at 25-30 mph in a straight line (9" 3.70 trac loc rear). Haven't really stretched its legs too much yet, but i can say it's a lot of fun. Probably going to need some better tires and maybe some Traction bars of some sort.

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9/16/2016 7:55 AM  #104


Re: bore to 347?

rbtconsultants wrote:

We just got our fresh 347 running in our 66 coupe. Has about 3 hours on it so far. Bought the 347 kit from Skip White Performance on Ebay. It comes balanced with the balancer and flexplate for around $1k. It has extra-height forged Wiseco pistons, so they have a nice thick top and easy to zero deck on a slightly decked block. We had our machine shop work a 90 302 roller block for us and install the rotating assembly into the short block. Total machine shop bill was about $900. They thought the rotating assembly was a nice kit.

I had Skip balance it with a flywheel (t5z transmission) for an extra $100, but that turned out to be a mistake because i wanted a flywheel for a 10.5" fox clutch and the flywheels Skip has are the 289/302 10" bolt pattern. They didn't drill the flywheel when they balanced it so i swapped it out for the fox flywheel we had on the old 289, so all is good.

We put edelbrock performer heads with 2.02 valves and scorpion 1.6 roller rockers, an edelbrock rpm intake, edelbrock 650 cfm thunder carb and a Comp magnum 270hr cam in it, with tri-y headers and 2 1/4" dual h-pipe exhaust.

No dyno on it yet, but it will spin the tires hard in 2nd if I hammer it while cruising at 25-30 mph in a straight line (9" 3.70 trac loc rear). Haven't really stretched its legs too much yet, but i can say it's a lot of fun. Probably going to need some better tires and maybe some Traction bars of some sort.

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I had originally considered a 347 build but opted out for one reason or another, high cost initially is what made me throw in the towel, but at this point cost differance is negligible if I start adding up receipts...... sounds like you did pretty well sourcing components on your build, good to hear.

I was inquiring on another thread about what would be the best intake manifold/carb to use on my engine and all i got was- " what's the acronym RTV stand for"........ I see you went with the Edlebrock RPM, I was leaning towards the performer, with a 600cfm carb not 100% sure yet though, might have to refer back to the builder to double check.

Anywho, thanks for the feedback, I see lots of J hooks in your future!
 


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9/16/2016 9:20 AM  #105


Re: bore to 347?

The Performer doesn't have enough port for a 347, especially if you run any kind of RPM.  Run a Performer RPM Air Gap, that's the best manifold you can put on it.

For the carb. a 600 would work, but a 650 would be better, especially if you're going to run it above 5,500RPM.  Edlebrock carbs are good and have good street manners.  They are almost infinitely tunable, but you can get lost in the tuning options and often achieve the same thing six different ways.  The reason racers run Holleys isn't because they're so good; its because they're simple. 

 

9/16/2016 5:15 PM  #106


Re: bore to 347?

RTV= Room Temperature Vulcanizing  Good Trivia Question

 

9/16/2016 5:57 PM  #107


Re: bore to 347?

"I'll take gaskets for $800 Alex."

"Silicone form-a-gasket is often referred to as RTV, which stands for? Roger."

"What is Round Tube Variation?"

"No, sorry, that's not correct.  Bob."

"What is Room Temperature Vulcanizing?"

"Yes. Bob has $2,400, Stewart $1,700, and Roger is in 3rd place with $900, and we're going to take a commercial break."

 

9/16/2016 6:25 PM  #108


Re: bore to 347?

TKOPerformance wrote:

The Performer doesn't have enough port for a 347, especially if you run any kind of RPM.  Run a Performer RPM Air Gap, that's the best manifold you can put on it.

For the carb. a 600 would work, but a 650 would be better, especially if you're going to run it above 5,500RPM.  Edlebrock carbs are good and have good street manners.  They are almost infinitely tunable, but you can get lost in the tuning options and often achieve the same thing six different ways.  The reason racers run Holleys isn't because they're so good; its because they're simple. 

Well its not actually a 347 if you remember but a 306, AFR heads 165, e303 comp cam. Was also reading good things about the weiand stealth.....


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9/17/2016 6:33 AM  #109


Re: bore to 347?

Ah, I didn't remember.  In that case a 600 is fine and I would still go with the RPM Air Gap.  Its the best dual plane intake for street use. 
 

 

12/30/2016 12:33 PM  #110


Re: bore to 347?

TKOPerformance wrote:

Ah, I didn't remember.  In that case a 600 is fine and I would still go with the RPM Air Gap.  Its the best dual plane intake for street use. 
 

Been a bit since I posted any progress, figured I would add on this thread to include the back story.  About to make an order on the aforementioned items, and have heard that the Air Gap (RPM) vs. Just the RPM  is a tight fit under the hood, almost not doable? Anyone have first hand experience with this? Still thinking 600/650 edlebrock elect. choke. I see these combo kits on Summit but they are pairing the intake w/ a 800cfm carb, any reason for that?

While I have been compiling my punch list of needed item to  finish this motor, car has been sitting at the same shop it was 9 months ago whilst the body guy slowly chips away at it, shaved some emblems, did a little rust repair, many coats of primer and block sanding and such. Panel alignment lately w/ doors/fenders, trunk lid and fender extensions and its been jammed with the original color silver smoke grey which is definitely growing on me. Have a few pictures on my phone, will see about trying to add them soon.

Now its finally about ready to get this motor/T5z installed (thanks Glenn at Rosehill performance) however still undecided on which clutch to use?

Other than that, as always thanks in advance for the input, always a valued group of minds and experience here, hope all are well and ready for 2017.

 


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12/30/2016 1:22 PM  #111


Re: bore to 347?

Just like TKO sez....the 600 cfm carb is more than adequate for the 5.0/306 engine. (even with the "puny e-cam").
My hood clearance is tight with the RPM intake. Another 1/2" ...and a drop air cleaner may be called for.
"Some say"....in a cool climate area...the air-gap is NOT the best choice. RPM is better.  Blocked off  heat risers in the intake should give the same results as the air-gap.
Just wondering out loud....IF the air gap is used....why would you then want a choke on the carb?
Air gap is "suppose" to deliver cooler charge of fuel...so colder climates(where a choke is needed) will give a colder charge and then....richen it up (because its COLD!) to try and get the engine to run/crank right!!See what I mean?!!
Sorta like  "big cam" to make power butt.....small jets to get better gas mileage!! Forward and reverse at the same time!!
Jus say'in!
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1/02/2017 2:13 PM  #112


Re: bore to 347?

If you have a 65/66 I don't think an Air Gap will fit - too tall.  I have just a std Performer on my 315w and it barely fitted even with a dropped air cleaner.  Now I have added the FiTech fuel injection and I had to use one of those short air cleaners for fitment.


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1/03/2017 5:43 AM  #113


Re: bore to 347?

Adjustable motor mounts will buy you like another inch of hood clearance.  You can also forgo the carb spacer if needed.  PVC or booster can be plumbed directly into the manifold or carb. 

 

1/08/2017 11:03 AM  #114


Re: bore to 347?

TKOPerformance wrote:

Adjustable motor mounts will buy you like another inch of hood clearance.  You can also forgo the carb spacer if needed.  PVC or booster can be plumbed directly into the manifold or carb. 

Lowercase, yeah its a 65.

TKO, I have been thinking about motor mounts and undecided as to which to go with, wanted to do the adjustable but figured I might not gain much w/o interference w/ the steering?

I am going to go with the RPM Non air gap w/650 Edlebrock carb, wondering if I need a low profile air cleaner?


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1/08/2017 3:23 PM  #115


Re: bore to 347?

I can't say about the steering; no first hand experience. 

I would go with a Hi-Po style or a drop base if needed.  Honestly I'd get the engine in the car and see how much space you have before buying anything. 

 

1/08/2017 10:36 PM  #116


Re: bore to 347?

I have a "knock-off RPM manifold" with a Edelbrock 600 carb.  It has the standerd size base and the low profile air filter/cleaner the 289 hi-po usta have. The clearance is......just enough...less than 1/2" I believe.
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