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    10/08/2016 5:53 PM  #1

    mark1965
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    T5 to auto swap

    I have a. 65coupe 302  with a t5 conversion . the car has been done for about ten years now and my daughter is older and I want her to start driving it because someday it will be hers . to make it more enjoyable for her i am thinking of swaping out the t5 for an automatic but I have a few questions you guys may be able to help with.
    1 Besides the transmission bell housing flex plate torque converter what else do I need to do the swap
    2 how much is my t5 and all it's components worth to help offset the cost
    3 what trans would you suggest (c4. Aod ) or something else
    Thanks look toward to reading your thoughts

     

    10/08/2016 7:16 PM  #2

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    I'd just teach her to drive a stick.  Its becoming a lost art.  I taught my wife years ago and now her DD is a stick while mine's an auto.

    If you must swap it to an auto I would not waste my time with a non overdrive trans like a C4.  Unless you want the one that came out of my '67, in which case its a great way to go

    Seriously though, I think the AOD might be the simplest choice.  Beyond that I think it gets into electronic control and that's a whole other headache.

    What's all the swap stuff worth?  On eBay probably 60-90% of what you paid for it.  On Craigslist maybe 50% or less.  The trans, if its a regular Fox body T5 is worth maybe $250.  I see people swear they're worth $500, but I never see them sell for that price.  I bought a trans with bellhousing and a Pro 5.0 shifter for $200 and another T5 apart with a bad input and cluster for $150 a couple months ago.  Now, if its a Z-spec its worth more than that, because it has the better ratios, so you could probably get $500-$600 for it.  You're best bet is to sell it a piece at a time on eBay, that will bring the most money, but is also the most hassle.  Second best would be to sell it as a kit on eBay.  Put like a $500 reserve on it and start it at like $350.  Keep in mind that shipping could be absurd due to weight, probably budget at least $125 for that. 

     

    10/09/2016 6:35 PM  #3

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    Drive shaft
    I suggest an AOD trans
    Block plate
    T5 starter works with the AOD
    Remove the pilot bearing from crankshaft
    Shorter flywheel bolts
    Use 164 tooth flywheel for a 28 ounce engine with FMX
    AOD throttle position cable
    Shifter from Fox Mustang
    Crossmember for AOD

    I am sure the Swap Meet page of this forum would be a good free way to sell off the T5 stuff.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    10/09/2016 7:00 PM  #4

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    Trans cooling lines...

     

    10/09/2016 7:08 PM  #5

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    josh-kebob wrote:

    Trans cooling lines...

     
    Good one, Josh. And a radiator designed with a tranny cooler in it.

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    10/09/2016 7:27 PM  #6

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    AT brake pedal...

     

    10/09/2016 8:50 PM  #7

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    josh-kebob wrote:

    AT brake pedal...

    Something else I have if you want it...

     

    10/10/2016 7:23 PM  #8

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    Much for the parts
     

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    10/10/2016 10:30 PM  #9

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    Don't mean to "beat-a-dead-horse(Mustang)" butt......really think about letting her learn how to drive a stick shift.
    I did with my daughter and she still talks about how much more fun it was. Her first two cars were stick shifts. It's really a dying art for kids anymore. Soft diaphragm clutch and smooth linkage and she should have no probs.
    A lot of work and money to make the switch. I doubt you would get enough for the T-5 stuff to pay for the conversion to A/T.
    Think about it............Have you talked it over with your daughter?!
    Just ask'in...
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    10/11/2016 4:06 AM  #10

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    What would be the best donor car to get and aod trans?

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    10/11/2016 12:57 PM  #11

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    Re: T5 to auto swap

    mark1965 wrote:

    What would be the best donor car to get and aod trans?

     
    For an AOD, you want an 89 +.  I'd  say to look for one from an 89 to 93 5.0 Mustang.  And get the shifter if you can.  I made the 66 C4 shifter work so the car looks stock, butt (TS&T) it was an "engineering challenge".  The 89 Lincoln TC trans also has the correct selector lever for floor shifting due to a bell crank  in its original column linkage...discovered that by accident.

    But I have to agree with the teach stick shifting advice.  I told my daughter to learn on a stick and  you'll  always  be  able  to  drive  anything.  She did...and she can.  I  can still see her bombing around in our old 76 Blazer with the Granny 4 spd.

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    10/11/2016 3:53 PM  #12

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    SM420 probably.  One of the first things with a stick I drove on the road was an '82 1-ton Chevy dump truck with an SM420.  Tough trans.  Learned how to heel/toe and powershift in that thing.

     

    10/12/2016 6:42 AM  #13

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    mark1965,
    I vote for teaching your daughter how to drive a car with a manual transmission too. I have a 16 year old daughter who is currently performing the required number of driving hours to get her NC license. She started driving an automatic, but for the past few weeks she has been driving a manual. I have noticed that it is helping her to multitask and think ahead, especially as she approaches a turn or enters into congested traffic. I think it has helped her confidence as well, doing something that few other people can do. Driving a car with a manual transmission is a dying art and I have read that it is a matter of time, before the manual transmission goes away completely. Personally, I think driving a manual is way more fun as long as you are not stuck in bumper to bumper traffic. I guess an argument could be made for better gas mileage and lower maintenance costs too, but whichever route you choose I want to says thanks for keeping an American classic on the road!
    SteveinNC

     

    10/12/2016 7:08 AM  #14

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    If you are an arthritic mess like I am go with an auto.
     I learned to drive stick ( Austen A40) when only big buck sleds had autos and owned stick shifts till joint replacements started to happen.

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