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It wasn't a blue 66 fastback was it?
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Bullet Bob wrote:
It wasn't a blue 66 fastback was it?
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no I'm pretty sure it was a 65 with white stripes!!!
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208 MPH in a Street driven mustang. A little hard to believe..
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Honestly, 176 is hard to believe. It seems to indicate a gross misunderstanding of what it takes to achieve those speeds. Most people think that if you just throw enough HP at a car it will go as fast as you want. Truth is the aerodynamics on these cars are horrible, and they are always drag limited much more so than power limited. Even with a pretty serious engine making say 700HP I don't see speeds over 150 being very realistic. Keep in mind the Cobras couldn't break that speed, light as they were and with all the power tricks they could throw at a 427. The Daytona Coupes were an aerodynamic evolution to allow the concept to run faster than 150. It would be interesting to see a Cobra in a wind tunnel, but I have to believe that it has considerably less frontal area than a Mustang. Then there's the air under the car and the potential to literally lift the car right off the road at speed. Yeah, I call BS on this. I'm filing it with the stories about street cars pulling the front wheels off the ground, and the car with the $100 bill taped to the dash.
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Stock 2012 Boss 302 of my friend clocked at 176 with wife along and ac running. This was on closed highway in Texas where they have an annual measured mile high speed run.
I agree it would be much more difficult to achieve faster speeds. Even with my aluminum 427, I doubt mine could attain 150. GPS said I went 135 on the Arkansas interstate, and I think the finger impressions in my wood steering wheel are still evident.
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Saw a documentary a while back on the Flying Mile. They profiled a team with a Fox bodied mustang with a supercharged Windsor. They were overdriving the blower to make 30psig, effectively making a hand grenade motor, plus wearing out a blower belt each one way run. By the time they had the engine tuned up to the max they were down to one blower belt. The driver made two hundred mph plus very small change, but with no blower belt for a return run they did not receive an official time. The car owner told the camera that with different blower pulleys, the Fox body was a daily driver. It's a good story.
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Yes on both counts, BUT, even a Fox body is a lot more aerodynamic than an early car. Fox's were designed with wind tunnel input, and CAFE was in effect when they were built, so cheating the wind to save fuel was part of Ford's program. A 2012 Boss is certainly a lot more aerodynamic than either a classic or a Fox. The science of aerodynamics as applied to cars keeps getting better and better, even these cars today with retro styling. It only takes a tiny change in a profile (one you can't even perceive with your eye) to have major effects on aerodynamics. We are in the era of understanding laminar flow now, so the car industry has caught up to aviation in the mid '40s. Ironically it was the North American P51 Mustang that used the first laminar flow wing design, which helped it push the limits of what a prop plane without swept back wings could do.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm. If I can "wring"50mph out of 1st gear.....then 5X50=????
Sorry........I can see hood and fenders flying off before top end is reached!!!
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Notwithstanding what it would take for the Mustang to do 208, at night, turning off the car lights, on a public road, the copper was able to stay close enough to get him and keep him on the radar??? Riiight! Where's Paul Harvey for the rest of the story?
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A late model car from a tuner known for building insane cars. Not surprising at all. BUT, also not what we're talking about here. Aerodynamically the '65 Mustang in question is significantly worse than that car. It took 774HP to get that car to break 200. It would take a lot more to get a '65 to do that, and that's assuming it didn't flip right off the road from the lack of downforce before you got to that speed. Its not a question of impossible; its a question of extremely unlikely.
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Hey TKO, I'm confused. Where did it say anything about a 65 doing 208?
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Upon returning from Viet Nam in '69 I bought a new Mach 1 428 SCJ. On the way to Vegas one nite I got into a top end race with a souped up Pontiac. At between 135 and 140 the front became so light I thought it was coming off the ground, slowed down real quick.
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What's this about a blue '66 fastback?
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Hey TKO, I'm confused. Where did it say anything about a 65 doing 208?
Upon review the article doesn't say that. I suppose I combined the article and the first couple comments about '65/'66 Mustangs thinking they had more info on the story than I did. I now reads more like sarcasm, but that doesn't come across real well typed, so possibly we were all led astray. Actually the article doesn't say anything about the car other an that it was a "Ford Mustang". A later model car with a lot of mods maybe. I know a very nearly stock SN95 Cobra would do 150 if the speedo was accurate, but there is a marked difference between 150 and 208. Speeds like that take more than raw power, because the power needed to increase speed from say 160-170 could be 25-50% more HP depending on the aerodynamics. Then again, something as simple as a chin spoiler could net you a 5MPH increase with no increase in power. I suppose with no details in the article we all just started filling them in and it turned into bench racing.
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But... that's what we do BEST !!
We're car guys. That's what we do !!!
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He was driving a 2011 Mustang..........."Thanks Google".......
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Okay, so the body is probably capable of it. The question then is power. From some searching it seems the top speed for the GT is somewhere in the 160MPH range, possibly the more specialized cars (GT500, etc.) could push it further. Obviously there's aftermarket parts that could be added on top of that too. The question becomes does it run out of RPM before it can hit 208MPH? I would imagine it isn't going to pull top gear, and the rear gear is probably such that it maxes out RPM before it hits that speed, in which case power is irrelevant; it just gets to to the top speed faster. It would seem to me that the car would have to be purpose built for maximum top speed, which is counter to how most people build a fast street car. It does seem more believable now that we know it was a newer body style. BUT, still pretty sure that at the least a decent lawyer could make mincemeat out of the cop's story and get this guy off.
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NOT SURE ABOUT MUSTANG BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE DEPUTYS ACHIEVED 150 IN THE CAPRICE DEPUTY CARS....WE HAVE THE SAME POLICE CARS AND THEY ARE THE FASTEST PATROL CARS I HAVE EVER DROVE THEY HAVE A SPORT MODE. I COULD ONLY IMAGINE HOW A TURBO AND SOME GEARS WOULD DO IN ONE. THEY ARE LIKE 6.0 ENGINES 355 HP.
I BEEN IN CROWN VICS AROUND 130 OR SO.
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