I think non-ethan fuel is MORE available along the coast because.........off shore boats and such. I mean...who wants to be 50 miles off shore and your engine crud-out because you put  ethanol gas in it?!!! Can't walk to get more gas or call AAA for a tow when your possibly on the buffet line for Jawz!
I use it .....because its cheap (and so am I!) butt..if it was done away with, I think gasoline prices would settle back down to where ethanol "laced" gas is now. 
6sal6
PS...........I miss the days when gas smelled GOOD going into the tank and didn't stink coming out of the exhaust!!

The Buccee’s in Katy sells Erhanol free gas too.

I've started buying ethanol free fuel for all of my small gas engines (I got tired of replacing carbs every couple years in the small engines). Unfortunately, there is no where in my state where it is sold at the pump, so my options are the local FBO airport or marinas.  Excpet for the price, the airport works out well.  I pick up 20 or 25 gallons at a time.  Nothing like the smell of high octane AV gas when you're running the leaf blower.

Last edited by Chaplin (5/31/2018 9:15 PM)

Alessandro wrote:

how is funny have 7 usd for a gallon here in italy .....  100 dollars you filled  mustang tank one time  

OUCH

I fill my mustang for 30 bucks .. that is crazy .. even my exepdition with 30 gallon tank doesnt get to a 100. There was a time few years ago when prices got to 3.50 or 3.99 a gallon here in Texas, and it was a meltdown! LOL
 

Around here the Alon stations don't advertise it but their Premium unleaded is ethanol-free. It is marked 91 octane on the pump and the stations with 10% ethanol Premium are marked 93 octane. Alon's Premium is always $.50 higher than their Regular so it is currently $3.10/gal.

You could move to Venezuela where gas is 18 cents a gallon!
 In Canada taxes make up a big part of the cost, all taxes are compounded meaning that we pay tax on tax. .

• Provincial Excise Tax – 11 per cent
• Federal Excise Tax – 8 per cent
• Provincial HST – 7 per cent
• Federal GST/HST – 5 per cent

I suppose we do have to remember that everything is relative.  Gas was I seem to remember like $0.10-$0.15/gallon in the '60s, but a new Mustang was also less than $3,000.  I think my grandfather said the house they lived in when I was growing up cost $5,000, and it was all brick!

Yeah, you're right on with that suspicion.  It's misleading spin and lobbying.  The economics of ethanol on the gas without gov subsidy doesn't pan out. It is actually a net negative in total fossil fuel burn (and cost).  The reason it's cheaper at the pump is government subsidies to farmers.  Gov pays farmers to produce to give then some scratch and to keep food prices down, then as a result process and sell the ethanol from the overproduction to get somewhat of a return.

Last edited by Big Tag (6/06/2018 8:27 PM)

6sally6 wrote:

TKOPerformance wrote:

I suppose we do have to remember that everything is relative.  Gas was I seem to remember like $0.10-$0.15/gallon in the '60s, but a new Mustang was also less than $3,000.  I think my grandfather said the house they lived in when I was growing up cost $5,000, and it was all brick!

I think minimum wage was $1.25 per hour too!!
6s6
 

$1.25 in the 60's , I remember those good old days Mike. 
When I graduated high school on 1957 I got a job at Union Carbide in the machine shop that paid $0.45 an hour.

In developing nations ethanol is a viable fuel, often more viable than petroleum based fuel, unless they actually have large petroleum deposits that can be used, but even then they often don't have the infrastructure to refine and dispense gasoline or Diesel fuel.

What they do have is agrarian economies and cheap labor.  That's why ethanol works there.  In the US labor is too expensive, and adversely impacts the cost of ethanol.  There are different ways to produce ethanol, and the idea of using biomass for example instead of a footstuff as a feedstock is intriguing just from a save space in landfills perspective if nothing else, but everything I've read on it claims the process is too inefficient, and again we end up upside down in terms of both cost and fuel used.

The cars today need so much power because they are pigs.  Look at how big everything is now.  A Honda Civic from the '90s would fit in the trunk of a Honda Civic from today.  All this techno crap in cars just ads weight, plus Americans just keep getting fatter and need more room.  In other countries they have compact Diesel powered vehicles that get between 50 and 100mpg, but we won't import them because of crash standards, etc., etc., etc.  Really?  A Smart Car is safer than one of those?  I smell something...I think its Bull@%$^!