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1/24/2019 7:55 PM  #1


Tremec 3550

Will a tremec 3550 fit in a 67 to mustang?

 

1/25/2019 10:56 AM  #2


Re: Tremec 3550

Do you mean, will it bolt up?  Or will it physically fit in the tunnel?  I have a TKO 600 in my 66, but it took a lot of cutting and rebuilding to fit it in there.  It is basically the same physical size as a 3550.  The 67 does have more tranny clearance than a 66.


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1/25/2019 3:37 PM  #3


Re: Tremec 3550

The 3550 was THE Tremec before they starting offering the TKO, and later the TKO 500 and TKO 600. 

My questions would be:

1.) Why the 3550?  Did you find a cheap one used?  Its kind of a dated trans and Tremecs never got used gently, so I'd be somewhat leery of just slapping it in if it wasn't rebuilt recently. 

2.) A T5 will bolt in with not tunnel clearance issues; why not consider one instead?  If you're concerned about durability let me know why, and I can tell you if those concerns are legit. 

 

1/26/2019 1:10 PM  #4


Re: Tremec 3550

The TKO 600 went into my car with no modifications to the trans tunnel. Could be different for you though.


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

1/26/2019 1:21 PM  #5


Re: Tremec 3550

I have both and yes they are exactly the same outside dimensions. I raced very hard on the 3550 for almost 10 years (broke last race of that year) replaced with the TKO600. My experience says the 3550/TKO is only way to go. T5's break! Often! Of course I drive like I'm on the track. BUT any little bit of wheel hop will hurt a T5 behind even a mild V8. So anything short of the perfect rear suspension (even with skinny tires) will at some point leave you fixing a T5. Most guys I race with cary spare T5's to survive a weekend. Like I said above the 3550 went almost ten years never apart. TKO600 is better. And yes the T5's the guys are using are the reworked ones with all the upgraded gears and parts. The torque wrap you get with any amount of wheel hop is going to be above T5 tolerance and eventually break something. So if you ever plan on a burn out or smoke job get a TKO. Oh I should say most folks say the TKO doesn't shift well at high revs but my experience show that not to be true if driven like it should be. I have found that most folks that have that problem have two issues. One they don't drive like some one shoul that is trying to turn 8000 rpm and second their choice of clutch sucks!

Last edited by DC (1/26/2019 1:25 PM)

 

1/26/2019 2:16 PM  #6


Re: Tremec 3550

DC, I love ya brother, but I gotta disagree. 

If wheel hop is causing failure in a T5 it can be solved with the addition of a simple countergear support plate and applying proper 0.003" preload to the countergear and mainshaft via proper shimming.  FYI, you can break a 9" rear the exact same way if you run a crush collar in it instead of a solid spacer.  The wheel hop sets up an oscillation and bang!  Remove the endplay, and the ability to oscillate and the problem disappears.  I'm getting a deja vu feeling like we discussed this previously on another thread. 

I've driven T5s, 3350s, and TKOs and with reference to shift feel there's no comparison between the T5 and the Tremecs.  Sure, you can jam a Tremec into gear with every shift, but a trans with synchros shouldn't need to be shifted like something with dog rings.  They don't have to shift that way!  Drive something with a T56 and you'll see what I mean.  A T56 is every bit as strong as a Tremec, but shifts like a T5.  Bottom line, Tremec missed the boat with the synchro design and should be using the aftermarket carbon friction lined synchros you can get through Bob Hanlon instead of 40 year old brass ring technology. 

I've flogged T5s for decades and had very limited breakage.  Whenever I did I was able to solve the issue for less money than swapping to a Tremec.  I've also built T5s for a lot of guys over the years.  My T5s are in a lot of cars everyone said they would never survive in, yet many years later they are still going strong. 

In the end you have to do what makes sense for you, and as they say: your mileage may vary.  I do confess to having a bit of a thing about not believing what "everyone" seems to think about the relative strength of various drivetrain parts, but that's simply my nature.  Before I'm willing to agree I've got to test it, and much more often than not I've found most of that "knowledge" isn't.  Possibly I'm just the luckiest guy in the world when it comes to this stuff, but if that's the case I've been able to pass that luck on to a lot of other guys over the years. 

Oh, FYI the TKO is just an upgrade 3550.  You can actually upgrade a 3550 to TKO specs.  Not sure about the TKO500 and TKO600, but I'm sure they are a derivative as well.  They make have expensive parts that are different though, like the mainshaft, etc., but I'd be the cases are the same.  Probably not worth trying to upgrade that far though. 

 

1/26/2019 3:36 PM  #7


Re: Tremec 3550

The 3550 I have has the TKO tag on it. It was one of the first ones they did that way. That is one reason it lasted that long behind a 430+ hp motor. The second reason is my car has been fixed for the wheel hop problem. And it shifts as well as a T5 if you drive it correctly which 99.99% don't. And also it has the upgraded synchros. BUT I still help quite a few folks change to their back-up T5's every season. My comments are just simply based on what I see watching T5's get used on track as well as street. Most folks Mustangs exhibit quite a bit of wheel hop and I don't think most of them realize it and keep on pushing the envelope. I raced a T5 years ago with great success with no failures behind a 1275cc MG Midget motor and it was great. For bigger motors and vehicle mass, the TKO's greater center distance between mainshaft and layshaft (bigger gears) is a wonderful thing.

 

1/27/2019 7:06 AM  #8


Re: Tremec 3550

No doubt, wheel hop is like detonation.  People can't seem to figure out that its happening; they just keep breaking stuff. 

Hey, most people can't drive period.  Its why I've always felt safer on a race track than on the road.  Throw a manual trans into the mix and it mostly gets worse. 

In the end, our experiences are what we have, and we advise based on those. 

 

2/01/2019 4:03 PM  #9


Re: Tremec 3550

I just saw one rebuilt for sale in my area and was just wondering if you would have to modify a lot.

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2/02/2019 11:13 AM  #10


Re: Tremec 3550

Sounds like not.  Its also the kind of thing I'd personally buy as an investment if it was cheap enough.  For a couple hundred worth of parts I could fully rebuild it and upgrade it to TKO specs and I'm pretty sure I could get an easy $1500-$1800 for it given the cost of a brand new one, especially if I used the carbon blocker rings and could boast of the improved shift feel. 

 

2/05/2019 11:08 AM  #11


Re: Tremec 3550

I assume the clutch is cable actuated like a t5. Will mustangsteve's clutch cable kit work with it?

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