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    6/29/2019 10:51 PM  #1

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    Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    thanks in part to Bullet Bob applying his master wheel bearing hand torque skills to my 69. No issues with the front wheel bearings...so far. Made the 860 miles in just over 13 hours and getting 20 mpg.

    While fitting the brake rotor to the new hub, it wouldn't sit flush against the hub face. Turns out these quality CJ's hubs have the wheel stud holes on a slightly larger than 4-1/2" diameter. Nice. BB to the rescue as his ace machinist buddy Ted graciously agreed to bore us 5 clean holes. Thanks again Bob.

    While driving thru the Mojave desert in 103° heat, I made the decision right then to have air conditioning installed before MSBB2020. Which aftermarket system do you guys like? I was thinking of going with Vintage Air. My 69 never had a/c.

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    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    6/30/2019 7:05 AM  #2

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    Re: Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    Glad you made it home, it was nice meeting you at the bash, can't wait to meet your car next year.

     

    6/30/2019 10:54 AM  #3

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    Re: Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    We have the Vintage Air and like it. 
     

     

    6/30/2019 1:11 PM  #4

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    Jim Bowie wrote:

    Glad you made it home, it was nice meeting you at the bash, can't wait to meet your car next year.

    Thanks Jim, likewise it was nice to finally meet you after reading your posts for years. Thanks to BB my car will hopefully make it to the east coast. Btw, I love your knives.
     

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
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    6/30/2019 1:12 PM  #5

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    Mochaman wrote:

    We have the Vintage Air and like it. 
     

    Ed does your model have the servos or cables for adjustments?
     

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    6/30/2019 3:50 PM  #6

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    Re: Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    I looked at vintage air and classic air. Vintage removes the cold air vent on the drivers side. I think classic does not. I like the vent so I would lean towards classic air. Same price for both systems. You thinking of AC makes me want it too, although I have thought about it in the past. 

     

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    6/30/2019 3:52 PM  #7

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    Re: Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    How about some pictures of the carnage. Since you don't mention the spindle I'm thinking it survived.

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    6/30/2019 3:59 PM  #8

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    RV6 wrote:

    I looked at vintage air and classic air. Vintage removes the cold air vent on the drivers side.  

     
    It would be nice to see some pics or rhetoric  how the vent is eliminated.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
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    6/30/2019 4:07 PM  #9

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    RV6 wrote:

    How about some pictures of the carnage. Since you don't mention the spindle I'm thinking it survived.







    Spindle may look rough but it passed the finger nail test.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
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    6/30/2019 4:10 PM  #10

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    Great news to hear Bearing Bob rides again, the other BB is a handy Buddy to be around.
    BTW Bearing Bob, how wide are those wheel spacers your using??

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    6/30/2019 4:11 PM  #11

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    Uno incho.

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    6/30/2019 4:14 PM  #12

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    Graceahs Amigo

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    6/30/2019 4:35 PM  #13

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    Re: Last of the Mohicans makes it home...

    rpm wrote:

    RV6 wrote:

    I looked at vintage air and classic air. Vintage removes the cold air vent on the drivers side.  

     
    It would be nice to see some pics or rhetoric how the vent is eliminated.

    Vintage and classic air have PDF documents for the install. Both companies delete the passengers fresh air. Classic seems to allow the keepage of the drivers vent.

    Since I have not installed either system there may be away to keep the drivers fresh air vent. I need to look under the dash of some of the installs to see.  Shoulda, coulda, woulda at the bash if it were on my mind.

     

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    6/30/2019 4:37 PM  #14

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    RV6 wrote:

    rpm wrote:

    RV6 wrote:

    I looked at vintage air and classic air. Vintage removes the cold air vent on the drivers side.  

     
    It would be nice to see some pics or rhetoric how the vent is eliminated.

    Vintage and classic air have PDF documents for the install. Both companies delete the passengers fresh air. Classic seems to allow the keepage of the drivers vent.

    Since I have not installed either system there may be away to keep the drivers fresh air vent. I need to look under the dash of some of the installs to see.  Shoulda, coulda, woulda at the bash if it were on my mind.

    Hopefully someone with VA will chime in.
     

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
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    6/30/2019 4:39 PM  #15

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    rpm wrote:

    RV6 wrote:

    How about some pictures of the carnage. Since you don't mention the spindle I'm thinking it survived.







    Spindle may look rough but it passed the finger nail test.

    Keyrap, that spindle looks gnarly, but since it passed the B Squared test it is good to go. 
     

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    6/30/2019 4:48 PM  #16

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    I am thinking the discussion of the removal of the fresh air vent is not applicable to the 69-70 Mustangs.  The vent was relocated to the kick panel on those cars.  I have Vintage Air on my 66.  We have never gotten it to cool to a level that is acceptable to me.  While it did keep us comfortable on the bash trip, be reminded the ambient temp was rarely up to 80 degrees, except on the Dallas to Canyon Lake part of the trip.  Before I install a system on my F100, I will be doing more research to see who does not make excuses as to why their system does not cool below 40 degrees.  If they cannot offer a system that cools as well as a new FORD or chevy, they should consider some other business. The idea they use the exact same in-dash unit for every kit they sell is an indicator they really don't care if it fits anything well.  I am willing to try a different brand just so I don't have to deal with all four plenum attachments pointing towards the driver side.

    RPM, what drove the decision to use the crappy CJPONY hubs instead of reusing the originals?  Did the bearing race spin in the hub, or something?  I have seen that happen before and it rendered the hub unusable. (made the bore where the bearing race fits oversized).  Normally, I would rather have GOOD USED than new CHINESE.

     

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    6/30/2019 6:34 PM  #17

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    Thanks for the AC info Steve, guess I have some due diligence upcoming.

    Steve you are correct on the outer race surface being enlarged when the race spun. Chicom was all I could get at the time. Believe it or not, I had a good oem used hub out ready to be packed in the trunk for the Bash. Somehow in my excitement to leave I failed pack it.

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    6/30/2019 7:30 PM  #18

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    I just finished up a install in my non ac 69 mustang.  It took me about 3 month but I had some other things I was doing to.  I added Dakota Digital gauges to.  I haven't had the system charged yet. Hoping to get it over there this week to do that and cross fingers there is no leaks. They have a cover you have to seal of air intake in the top of cowl.  I drilled the holes for the vents so the vents would just fit in.  I didn't use there hardware for that.  Also another tip.  Don't install the vents until you run the vent hose to the vents.  There's so way to attach the vent hose to the vents because there isn't enough room to get your hands in there.  So you attach the plastic vent attach to the vent hose.  The hold the vent hose and plastic attachment and screw the vent to it while holding it.  That seemed to work the best.  You have to loosened the lower dash  and pull it out a bit to get that big system installed.  Not much room there.   Here's some pics. 

     

    6/30/2019 7:53 PM  #19

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    I forgot about the passenger side air inlet for the factory heater being in top

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    6/30/2019 8:39 PM  #20

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    Thanks Steve69 for the info and pics.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
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    7/01/2019 10:02 AM  #21

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    Very nice. It’s on my list too. Thanks for additional information.

     

    7/01/2019 10:44 AM  #22

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    I have the Vintage Gen IV in my 65 FB and works great.  Although I haven't been in 103 degree temps, I have driven to work where the car sat in the sun all day, some days in 90 degree temps, and the system cooled the car quickly and didn't require it to be left on "full" for the 25 mile ride home.

    65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
     

    7/01/2019 12:39 PM  #23

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    Glad you made it home Bob. Here is something I posted on another thread over AC systems, see my post.

    http://fyi.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=9636

    A few more thought on the vintage air....all of the air outlets from the box are at the center of the car. The driver side goes straight across with a few bends, the passenger side tubing has to wrap around behind the box to make it to the register. This is bound to cause some loss of air flow. The Vintage air system does not allow for hot air to blow on my feet either like  a factory system.

    I left my fresh air vent in place on the driver side, then taped it off when I felt warm air coming in.

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    Thanks Steve69 for the info and pics.

      No problem!   Good Luck!
     

     

    7/01/2019 3:18 PM  #25

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    Coming from a non-AC guy you can take it fer wut its worth.
    Seems to me the bigger the evaporator and larger coolant capacity the colder it should blow.
    Look for a unit with the largest evap!?!
    Seems like "I heard" somewhere.....since R-12 was a more efficient coolant and evaporators that are "sized" for R-12.....don't cool as good when using the new stuff.
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