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I have a 65 mustang coupe.
96 5.0 gt40 (not a gt40p).
66 motor mounts
Steve’s
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Master kit (brake booster/cable clutch)
Is there a recommended brand of tri y headers?
Or a brand to avoid?
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Welcome to the forum.
With a stock or lightly modded engine, long tubes or tri y are no real benefit ... more of a hindrance clearance wise.
JBA or Hedman shorties would be a better choice.
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The only clearance issue I had with Tri-y's was when I installed an AOD, they fit fine with a C-4. I also have a mini starter, IIRC the stock starter was tight.
Don't know what problems there are with a manual tranny.
JBA's seem to be a good choice.
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My no name tri ys were always dragging on speed bumps and angled driveways. A ball and socket connection woulda given a bit more clearance. I swapped them out when I did an AODE swap. With the shorties, I was able to get 2.5" pipes level with the sump on the box.
Maybe someone with a cable clutch can chime in on potential cable clearance problems, to avoid a melted cable.
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Only issue with JBA shorties is if you have or plan to install a Borgeson power steering system. The LH header hits the steering box big time. I had to make a pretty good sized dent in one of the tubes to clear the box. Had I known this going in I probably would have looked at FPA headers instead, which I hear clear the box without issue.
Otherwise the JBAs are great. You will need socket style collector pieces for your exhaust because they use ball and socket joints
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Converts present a different issue than coupes and fast backs. after leaving the headers bothe mid pipes have to pass above the crossover plate. If going larger than stock pipes the real estate get quite confined., you have to be carefull to prevent any conflict that creates rattles.
My no name brand tri-y's don't hang down that far and have never bottomed out, touch wood.
As a side note check out the epoxy on the floor, looks not bad after all the years it's been on there.
Last edited by Rudi (12/16/2019 9:36 AM)
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Thanks for the feed back.
The repo k code manifolds aren’t sealing.
That’s most of why I am leaning towards tri y’s.
I was hoping for feed back on Steve’s cable clearance.
I’ll let you know how it goes.
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Are you using any kind of gasket on the mani's?
6sally6
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6sally6 wrote:
Are you using any kind of gasket on the mani's?
6sally6
Good question. I always ran mine without gaskets. That was on advice from my neighbor who's a lifelong mechanic and about the best I know. He said they need to conform to the flanges and gaskets actually prevent that and create potential voids that can leak over time.
I will say though, headers are going to require periodic retorquing to keep them from ticking. I do run gaskets with headers, but only solid copper. I've yet to have one fail and yet to have that wouldn't reseal if a leak developed.
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I run the Sanderson short on 1 car for many yrs. with red hi temp silicone as they recommended. So far it works. Never had any luck with gaskets on cast or headers on anything. They always burn and blowout somewhere since no more asbestos.
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Wrkhorse wrote:
Thanks for the feed back.
The repo k code manifolds aren’t sealing.
That’s most of why I am leaning towards tri y’s.
I was hoping for feed back on Steve’s cable clearance.
I’ll let you know how it goes.
One solution is to take the manifolds to a machine shop and have them mill the flanges flat. They only need a skim to make that happen.
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^this^ Iron heads to Iron manifolds, transfers heat better without a composite gasket between.
If a gasket is needed, copper is the best choice.
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50vert wrote:
^this^ Iron heads to Iron manifolds, transfers heat better without a composite gasket between.
If a gasket is needed, copper is the best choice.
I used copper years ago on "Not A Small Block" and they worked better than great!
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Hipo manifolds gave me problems with some Edelbrock heads once. They would not fit tight to the head until I ground off some of the extra deck thickness of the head. Then they fit fine.
Tri-Y headers are just about always problematic with cable clutch. They block the cable right where it needs to enter the bracket on the side of the bellhousing.
Hipo manifolds are best fit normally. You might just need to grind a little on the head so the manifolds can get close enough to bolt up properly.
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I've been running NPD re-pop Hi-Po manifolds for over 30K miles. Had them on E7 heads for 15K and then went to the AFR 165's. These presented the problem MS referred to above and I had to do some custom fitting to both the heads and the manifolds to get them to mate flush. Butt (TS&T), I have been using head-to-manifold gaskets since day one and never had a problem. They are made for a 2" pipe with "donut" gaskets at the outlet and again no problem. I used 2" to start the headpipes and then up to 2.25" after a few inches.
Everything gets tight and has to be modified when swapping to the AOD/AODE/4R70W.
NOTE: I discovered many years ago that head to manifold gaskets will blow out very soonly if the manifold bolts are not properly torqued. Discovered this when I put a Bowtie 283 in my old 54 F. Went through three sets of gaskets before the "light" came on. Torqued the next set to what Chevy recommended and never touchted it again. Since then I ALWAYS pay attention to torque specs.
Last edited by Bullet Bob (12/22/2019 10:22 AM)
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50vert wrote:
Welcome to the forum.
With a stock or lightly modded engine, long tubes or tri y are no real benefit ... more of a hindrance clearance wise.
JBA or Hedman shorties would be a better choice.
👍 Hedman shorties are working great for me..had them coated for the mighty fine stroker MS built for me 😉
Last edited by Jwarley (12/24/2019 8:10 AM)
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