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Gonna try it again,so I will need the "good numbers" to get the alignment dude to put in his machine.
ALSO.....I understand the "shelby/arning drop".. lowers the front front 3/4-1+".My front is NOW at the max "lowness" soooo I was wondering if any of ya'll have used the rubber spacers that go on top of the spring to raise it a little? With a "fat person" riding with me...I scrub going across a speedbump so I'm as low as I can go now.
thanx
6sal6
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After doing the drop on my uppers my front end dropped more than the described 1/2" to 1". I'm going to attempt the spring perch move to gain those described advantages and maybe some height. The springs were already cut before the drop so if the perch move doesn't do the trick then I'm going to get new springs and not mess with spacers. Spacers may be just fine but I just like as few variables as possible
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Shelby's recommended alignment specs were 2-1/2 to 3 degrees positive caster, zero to minus 1/2 degree camber and 1/8" toe in.
Why not put the disc brakes up front WYAIT so you only have to align it once?
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Muzz 66 wrote:
After doing the drop on my uppers my front end dropped more than the described 1/2" to 1". I'm going to attempt the spring perch move to gain those described advantages and maybe some height. The springs were already cut before the drop so if the perch move doesn't do the trick then I'm going to get new springs and not mess with spacers. Spacers may be just fine but I just like as few variables as possible
Muzz, my recommendation is to move the perches out 3/4", not the one inch. I just did this on my '65 convertible (after the arning drop lowered my front end way more than was commonly declared) and it came out perfect. I dithered between the 1" vs 3/4" and went witht he 3/4" in the end. I am glad I did. I got just the perfect amount of lift and just the perfect amount of increased muscle in the front end. I did go with a couple of those aluminum twisty spring spacers, but only on the left side, to correct a sag, I did keep the stock springs.
At the same time I moved UCA's backward on the shafts 1/8" and dialed in 3.25° of positive caster. It all made for a real sports car feel. If I had to do all over again I would contemplate moving the arning drop holes back 1/4" instead of the perscribed 1/8th inch and keeping my UCA shafts centered. Either way, it made it easier to dial in the caster.
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Well Sal I'll give you the same good advise you gave me when I did my Shelby/Arning drop+ move the perch out 1". "Swap your springs for stock 6cyl springs" about $50.00 bucks. The combo was nothing short of amazing. It drove like ah modern car ...
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boomyal wrote:
Muzz, my recommendation is to move the perches out 3/4", not the one inch. I just did this on my '65 convertible (after the arning drop lowered my front end way more than was commonly declared) and it came out perfect. I dithered between the 1" vs 3/4" and went witht he 3/4" in the end. I am glad I did. I got just the perfect amount of lift and just the perfect amount of increased muscle in the front end. I did go with a couple of those aluminum twisty spring spacers, but only on the left side, to correct a sag, I did keep the stock springs.
Thanks! I will take this under advisement.
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Those numbers are crazy. In my experience, most UCA drops don't drop the front end more than 5/8" with a lot of them closer to 1/4". Here are the alignment specs I send with my drop template.
Please align to these specs “1960-1966 Mustang and Falcon Performance Alignment with or without UCA drop”.
These specifications are in order of importance.
1. NO more than .25 degrees difference between driver’s side and passenger’s side.
2. +2.0 to +3.5 degrees caster.
NOTE: for cars with Adjustable strut rods. Please attain as much caster as possible using the shims (at least 1.5 to 2.0 degrees), and then use the adjustable strut rods to increase the caster and make the sides the same. Also, please note that the caster difference between the driver’s side and passenger’s side needs to have no more .25 degrees difference prior to the adjustment of the strut rods.
3. -.5 to 0 degrees camber. No positive camber, please. There is no problem having a slight variation from driver’s side to passenger’s side to account for the crown in the road.
4. 1/16" to 1/8” toe in
If you run into any problems attaining these specs, please call me (your phone number here).
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What Daze says, has worked very well for me, for the past 8 years.
The moving the spring perch out and 6 cyl springs, are some newer ideas. I don't have any personal experience with them.
Tubo
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15" tyres,shelby drop and mustang GT front springs
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I used the the Mr Gasket aluminum twist in spacers also to gain a full inch of height...They work great ,they have been in now going on four years with -O- problems. Front end is heavy,but can't feel it...BB s code 67 F/B,4 speed, 620 springs,roller perch (by Daze) ,roller Idler arm,Global West spherical lower control arms,1" swaybar, a/c...feels like a sports car with a nice ride.....jj
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boomyal wrote:
At the same time I moved UCA's backward on the shafts 1/8" and dialed in 3.25° of positive caster. It all made for a real sports car feel. If I had to do all over again I would contemplate moving the arning drop holes back 1/4" instead of the perscribed 1/8th inch and keeping my UCA shafts centered.
Wouldn't locating the upper arm back that far cause interference with the nut on the back side of the tower?
John
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John wrote:
boomyal wrote:
At the same time I moved UCA's backward on the shafts 1/8" and dialed in 3.25° of positive caster. It all made for a real sports car feel. If I had to do all over again I would contemplate moving the arning drop holes back 1/4" instead of the perscribed 1/8th inch and keeping my UCA shafts centered.
Wouldn't locating the upper arm back that far cause interference with the nut on the back side of the tower?
John
are you speaking of the UCA bushing nuts? If so, you might be right.I is a tad tight back there, especially with the 90° zerk fitting installed. That is why I said I would "contemplate" moving the whole assy.
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