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3/04/2020 6:04 PM  #1


Evacuating the A/C

Getting close to filling The A/C with juice.



 

Last edited by RV6 (3/04/2020 6:05 PM)


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

3/04/2020 6:06 PM  #2


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Ok, before you all pipe in and say I don't have enough vacuum. The pressure up here in the clouds today is 24.73 inches of mercury. 

Last edited by RV6 (3/04/2020 6:11 PM)


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/04/2020 9:30 PM  #3


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Yup Gary...I started getting nerval when I did mine and it would only pull 23-24 inches.  Then I turned on my brain and went to Gargle....you ain't never gonna get more than 24 at our proximity to the Sun and Moon.  Which is also why low manny vac and power boosters don't get along too well up here...don't ax how I know.

BB
 


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

3/04/2020 10:15 PM  #4


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Your english is atrocious.............I kinda lack it!!
6sally6


Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
 

3/04/2020 11:46 PM  #5


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Durn osmosis is affectin da hurd.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

3/05/2020 5:57 AM  #6


Re: Evacuating the A/C

COOL 😎

 

3/06/2020 12:02 PM  #7


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Forty-eight hours and the A/C system is still holding vacuum. I must have done something right for this to happen.
I also dumped two gallons of anti-freeze in the cooling system and after 16 hours there are still no weeps/leaks as far as I can see. The floor is still dry. 
Next step is a stop at Wallymart for two 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 15W50 so I can change the oil. 
The weekend is supposed to be warm (~50F) so I'm hoping to open the shop door and fire the Old Gal up. Maybe charge the A/C too.
The path to freedom is still covered in snow and ice so no driving yet.


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/06/2020 11:24 PM  #8


Re: Evacuating the A/C

You're making great progress Gary. 


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

3/07/2020 11:06 AM  #9


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Bolted to Floor wrote:

You're making great progress Gary. 

Not anymore. After 2.5 days full of coolant I found a leak. I can't imagine it getting better by itself either. The two bolts that fasten the backing plate to the pump must not be as tight as needed. I can probably modify a tool to fit the passengers side, but the timing pointer on the drivers side limits access so I think the pump has to come off. What really sucks is the cooling system is full!


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/07/2020 11:56 AM  #10


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Gary, I have one freeze-plug and the right rear corner of the right head that like to loose just a little when stone-cold.  Never leaks under pressure or hot.  I keep a few tablespoons full of black pepper in it and that keeps it good for a number of months. 
Why don't you hold off charging the AC...in case you do need to pull the water pump... and get the trail cleared and drive it a bit and see how that leak behaves.  You should still have time then, if necessary, to pull the pump and charge the AC.

BB


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

3/07/2020 1:28 PM  #11


Re: Evacuating the A/C

To late BB. Napa said they would deliver the two needed gaskets this afternoon so I made a mess and pulled the pump. I don't mind the work, it's the coolant that I despise. Slippy, slimy and gets everywhere no matter how hard you try to stem the flow.

I had told Carolyn this morning that I was going just run it and see how bad it really was. She was really surprised when I told her the pump was off. Had NAPA not had the gaskets it would still be together. NAPA's fault.
 

Last edited by RV6 (3/07/2020 3:28 PM)


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/07/2020 3:20 PM  #12


Re: Evacuating the A/C

At lest you found it now while it was still in a good place to work on it.


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

3/07/2020 4:53 PM  #13


Re: Evacuating the A/C

NAPA came through and I have new water pump gaskets. 

I seldom use sealant and did not on the water pump install. Maybe I should try some and this is what I have. I'm leaning to the Aviation Form-A-Gasket.

 


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/07/2020 5:51 PM  #14


Re: Evacuating the A/C

I have used RTV for a lot of stuff where oil is involved and I also use Aviation Formagasket #2 sometimes.  Butt...when I rebuilt the Rotory engine in my RX7 Hylomar Universal Blue was recommended for sealant between the rotor housings and side plates at the water jackets.  So that's what I used and have since used it for water only applications such as water pumps, thermostat housings, etc.  It ani't cheap but it seems to work very well.

BB


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

3/07/2020 6:56 PM  #15


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Well it's all back together sans antifreeze. I used the Aviation Form-A-Gasket to seal the backing plate to the pump. I also used it around the water ports to the timing chain cover. It better not leak! The worst part of the job is dealing with the F*@#ing antifreeze. I hate that stuff. No matter how hard you try the crap just sprays everywhere except in the bucket.
I mentioned to Carolyn that if the mustang takes a dump on the way to the Bash that no matter where we are a wrecking yard is close by. Of course I'll dynamite her first as guys like to blow things up.
The Bucket-O-Bolts better behave herself!

Last edited by RV6 (3/07/2020 7:01 PM)


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/07/2020 7:08 PM  #16


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Forgot to mention...back in my Model A days I had a friend that always had an overhead valve converted "B" block and NEVER had ANY leaks.  On one of our LA to Vegas trips I asked  him how he kept it from EVER leaking.  He said "cat shxx".  Seems he worked for Caterpillar and he used their various gasket sealers for everything.  I guess it worked.

BB


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

3/07/2020 7:29 PM  #17


Re: Evacuating the A/C

BB,
Back in the day we used Yellow Gorilla Snot (3M Weatherstrip Adhesive). Nothing ever leaked but try to take them apart when you had to, not!


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/07/2020 7:48 PM  #18


Re: Evacuating the A/C

RV6 wrote:

BB,
Back in the day we used Yellow Gorilla Snot (3M Weatherstrip Adhesive). Nothing ever leaked but try to take them apart when you had to, not!

MS's procedure for installing a non-leaking intake manifold still requires that...black or yeller, same snot.

 


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

3/07/2020 9:00 PM  #19


Re: Evacuating the A/C

Did you put some sealer on the backing plate gasket and tighten the bolts that hold the plate onto the pump body?   Nobody ever does that because the pump appears “assembled” out of the box. 

Lesson learned....


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

3/08/2020 3:11 PM  #20


Re: Evacuating the A/C

MS wrote:

Did you put some sealer on the backing plate gasket and tighten the bolts that hold the plate onto the pump body? Nobody ever does that because the pump appears “assembled” out of the box.

Lesson learned....

The lesson has been lernt. I even removed the backing plate to check out the inerds. Tightened em up real good too. Anyways, the new improved install has Form-A-Gasket on both sides of the backing plate gasket and around the water ports in the timing cover. I checked tightness of all bolts numerous times. Me's sort a scared to put coolant innit. 
 


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/08/2020 3:18 PM  #21


Re: Evacuating the A/C

RV6 wrote:

Well it's all back together sans antifreeze. I used the Aviation Form-A-Gasket to seal the backing plate to the pump. I also used it around the water ports to the timing chain cover. It better not leak! The worst part of the job is dealing with the F*@#ing antifreeze. I hate that stuff. No matter how hard you try the crap just sprays everywhere except in the bucket.
I mentioned to Carolyn that if the mustang takes a dump on the way to the Bash that no matter where we are a wrecking yard is close by. Of course I'll dynamite her first as guys like to blow things up.
The Bucket-O-Bolts better behave herself!

 
I am having a hard time deciphering exact where you stopped talking about Carolyn and when you restarted talking about the Mustang.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

3/08/2020 4:38 PM  #22


Re: Evacuating the A/C

MS wrote:

RV6 wrote:

Well it's all back together sans antifreeze. I used the Aviation Form-A-Gasket to seal the backing plate to the pump. I also used it around the water ports to the timing chain cover. It better not leak! The worst part of the job is dealing with the F*@#ing antifreeze. I hate that stuff. No matter how hard you try the crap just sprays everywhere except in the bucket.
I mentioned to Carolyn that if the mustang takes a dump on the way to the Bash that no matter where we are a wrecking yard is close by. Of course I'll dynamite her first as guys like to blow things up.
The Bucket-O-Bolts better behave herself!

 
I am having a hard time deciphering exact where you stopped talking about Carolyn and when you restarted talking about the Mustang.

I just reread what I typed. I'll dynamite the Mustang and keep Carolyn.


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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3/09/2020 6:45 PM  #23


Re: Evacuating the A/C

RV6 wrote:

MS wrote:

RV6 wrote:

Well it's all back together sans antifreeze. I used the Aviation Form-A-Gasket to seal the backing plate to the pump. I also used it around the water ports to the timing chain cover. It better not leak! The worst part of the job is dealing with the F*@#ing antifreeze. I hate that stuff. No matter how hard you try the crap just sprays everywhere except in the bucket.
I mentioned to Carolyn that if the mustang takes a dump on the way to the Bash that no matter where we are a wrecking yard is close by. Of course I'll dynamite her first as guys like to blow things up.
The Bucket-O-Bolts better behave herself!

 
I am having a hard time deciphering exact where you stopped talking about Carolyn and when you restarted talking about the Mustang.

I just reread what I typed. I'll dynamite the Mustang and keep Carolyn.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m still laughing and crying.
I needed that!

 

3/09/2020 7:00 PM  #24


Re: Evacuating the A/C

In addition to aviation form a gasket, I’ve used Copper Spray Gasket and Indian Head Gasket Shellac Compound.

My dad used the gasket shellac on caterpillar graders and loaders at work.  Definitely useful to hold gaskets in place...especially an oil pan gasket out in the field.  It was many years later I ran across the aviation form a gasket.

 

3/10/2020 2:48 PM  #25


Re: Evacuating the A/C

This happens to be a very old bottle of Form-A-Gasket. Under the Directions, it states to use 188 proof DENTURED alcohol to thin. I have always chuckled at this.


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
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