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4/07/2020 5:00 PM  #1


Factory cruise control

Has anyone used one from a Mustang or Explorer?
Late 90’s to mid 2000’s?

If so what year?
Details?

 

4/07/2020 5:16 PM  #2


Re: Factory cruise control

No, but do a good write up with pics Dan to make the job easier for us!

 

4/07/2020 7:17 PM  #3


Re: Factory cruise control

I've looked at those systems and I don't see any reason one wouldn't work. It's all electronic so you'll need the "computer" that runs it. You'll have to supply it with data from a VSS and some other inputs such as brake pedal and clutch pedal position data.

 

4/08/2020 6:39 AM  #4


Re: Factory cruise control

From what I understand, some cruise controls are integrated into the vehicle ecm.
Are there ways around it?
Kinda like the electric power steering limp mode.

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4/08/2020 3:16 PM  #5


Re: Factory cruise control

If I ever add cruise to mine, i'll use the stuff from my 95 donor. EEC IV, and I think EEC V, dont need any input from the ECU.


"Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
 

4/08/2020 3:18 PM  #6


Re: Factory cruise control

I can't say for certain beyond '93, but The Fox systems were stand alone.  Sometimes they were dealer installed.  There are usually dealer kits on eBay for sale for them.  I don't think the '94-'95 ones were either because the only major differences in the ECM for them was a switch to OBDII and integration of cooling fan control.  I lost interest in the cars once the 4.6 came out, so I can't say from '96 onwards how integrated they are, though by 2005 I would assume they were integrated the way all vehicles were. 

 

4/08/2020 7:26 PM  #7


Re: Factory cruise control

I put an after market on my Mustang. Uses magnets for the vss and the controller is self contained. Works good.


70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

4/11/2020 7:28 AM  #8


Re: Factory cruise control

I will have to look into these options.
Originally, I was going to install the factory 92 mustang cruise control.
It’s just big and bulky, but it works.

Are there aftermarket units that are compatible with factory Ford cruise control switches?
I really don’t want it on the turn signal lever or just a box on the dashboard.
I have other ideas...can’t do it the easy way.

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4/11/2020 11:02 AM  #9


Re: Factory cruise control

I used a "Rostra" cruise control with it's dedicated turn signal mounted switches, screws right into the thingee in the column.It is an electronic operated servo. I once tried a vacuum operated CC but it was too weak to operate the Holley.
 When I had the C4 I used magnets on the driveshaft but now with the AOD it uses the VSS output.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

4/11/2020 12:13 PM  #10


Re: Factory cruise control

Rudi or (your name here)😁

Can factory style switches ( mid 80’s to mid  90’s) from a Ford Lincoln Mercury be used with Rostra style or other aftermarket cruise control?

They were all the same, buttons were shaped differently and location differed as well.
Electrically, all the same resistances connected to factory cruise.
I will be using VSS on T5 transmission inline with speedometer cable.  Just like on foxbody.

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4/11/2020 3:35 PM  #11


Re: Factory cruise control

I would assume that switches are switches.  If you know which wires do what you should be able to use any switch you want.  I don't know about other Fords, but the Mustangs used two 2 button switches mounted in the steering wheel in the Fox generation. 

 

4/11/2020 4:11 PM  #12


Re: Factory cruise control

Factory switches have resistance built in for each function to input to Ford factory cruise module.

Just not sure if it can be modified to provide simple on/off if required for Rostra system?
Or can they be used as is?
I haven’t run across wiring schematic of  Rostra switches ( internally).
There’s plenty of wire diagrams for entire system...no details.

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4/11/2020 4:24 PM  #13


Re: Factory cruise control

Rostra switches are simple on/off with no resistance.

Last edited by RV6 (4/11/2020 4:26 PM)


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

4/11/2020 4:33 PM  #14


Re: Factory cruise control

Thats the ticket Gary, with that schematic you should be able to connect with most pre computer factory controls.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

4/11/2020 5:05 PM  #15


Re: Factory cruise control

Great information Gary. Thank you.
Your switch is in a box on dash?

Rudi
The stalk you have replaced your old one entirely?

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4/11/2020 5:39 PM  #16


Re: Factory cruise control

Nos681 wrote:

Great information Gary. Thank you.
Your switch is in a box on dash?

Rudi
The stalk you have replaced your old one entirely?

Original fitment was the switch box located on the dash. With the addition of AC the center vents filled the area where the switch box was. I have now converted to the turn signal stalk switching. 


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

4/12/2020 10:35 AM  #17


Re: Factory cruise control

Gary did that just replace the existing lever?
Or was cutting required?

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4/12/2020 11:47 AM  #18


Re: Factory cruise control

Nos681 wrote:

Great information Gary. Thank you.
Your switch is in a box on dash?

Rudi
The stalk you have replaced your old one entirely?

 
Yes, Rostra sells a dedicated stalk with integrated controls. It has the proper threads that screws right into the original turn signal mechanism. Makes for a nice clean almost O/E looking  installation.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

4/12/2020 11:50 AM  #19


Re: Factory cruise control

Nos681 wrote:

Gary did that just replace the existing lever?
Or was cutting required?

I had a shorter version of the 66 stalk that I cut to mount the controls. 


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

4/12/2020 12:07 PM  #20


Re: Factory cruise control

I Rostra in my car using the clamp on stalk mount but put it in my consol. But anyway there are pictures of all their switches on their web site. At one time I was thinking of changing steering columns for a moderne on so I could have all my switches on the steering wheel. My ideas however are smarter than my brain.


70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

4/12/2020 12:19 PM  #21


Re: Factory cruise control

I checked their web site and did not see the threaded stalk listed, might be worth a call to them to make sure if that’s the one you want.
They show one that slides over a cut down original stalk, many options.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

4/12/2020 7:16 PM  #22


Re: Factory cruise control

Looks like I will have to do more research and development.

Are we related HudginJ3?😁

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4/12/2020 8:38 PM  #23


Re: Factory cruise control

Nos681 wrote:

Looks like I will have to do more research and development.

Are we related HudginJ3?😁

 
Of course we are! I don't think it's a good idea to talk about it in public. I have a 78? Ford horn pad that has the buttons on it. Ya want it? It's green.

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70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

4/12/2020 9:51 PM  #24


Re: Factory cruise control

HudginJ3 wrote:

Nos681 wrote:

Looks like I will have to do more research and development.

Are we related HudginJ3?😁

 
Of course we are! I don't think it's a good idea to talk about it in public. I have a 78? Ford horn pad that has the buttons on it. Ya want it? It's green.

You said it brother😁

Hold off on the steering wheel for now.
Thanks for the offer.
 

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4/13/2020 2:31 PM  #25


Re: Factory cruise control

Barry,

2000 Explorer

How many terminals are on your servo motor?  Mine = 10
How many wires? Mine = 8

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