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5/12/2020 5:07 PM  #1


Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

So this water pump I have fits fine and looks just like the stock 1979-93 water pump from the outside, but there is no way this is the right internal gasket. 

https://ibb.co/f1MG9Fb

I looked up the fel-pro water pump gasket for a 1988 mustang 5.0 and got these two.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-35211/make/ford/year/1988/model/mustang
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-35380/make/ford/year/1988/model/mustang

The one I took off looks like this and it matches the housing of the existing water pump way better.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-35214/make/ford

This is the stock 1988 5.0 Waterpump:

https://ibb.co/TKNr31S

What water pump do I have?
What water pump do I need?  (rotation direction?)


There's no stamps or identifying numbers on the existing water pump.  That tells me that it's almost certainly aftermarket.

thanks.


 

 

5/12/2020 8:54 PM  #2


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?





This is stock replacement for 92 mustang 5.0L

 

5/13/2020 7:41 AM  #3


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

What type of pulley/belt system do you have?  Rotation of the pump is contingent on the pulley system.  If you have the V-belt system, you need the "standard" rotation pump.  If you have the serpentine belt setup off the '88 where the smooth back of the belt runs the water pump, you need the "reverse" rotation.

 

5/13/2020 8:44 AM  #4


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

That pump doesn't look like any 5.0 water pump I've ever seen.  The one Nos681 posted in what it should look like.

Both garkets are correct.  The first is the water pump to timing cover gasket, the second is the water pump to back cover plate gasket.  That third gassket is for something else.  I'm betting its for a truck application since it lists Cleavland and Modified engines as well as Windsors.  I can tell you from swapping a 351M for a 351W in a mid '80s Bronco all of the accessory drive parts bolted up without issue, and the acessories ran v-belts. 

As stated, if you have a serpentine belt you need a reverse rotation pump.  If you have v-belts you need a standard rotation pump. 

Last edited by TKOPerformance (5/13/2020 8:48 AM)

 

5/13/2020 9:55 AM  #5


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

TKOPerformance wrote:

As stated, if you have a serpentine belt you need a reverse rotation pump.  If you have v-belts you need a standard rotation pump. 

Not necessarily true, Tom.  The late 80s CV, TC, etc. used a "Standard" output 5.0 with two six-groove serpentine belts and a normal (CW as you looked at it) water pump.  The single serp setup on the HO used the CCW pump that drove off of the back of the belt.

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5/13/2020 10:07 AM  #6


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

Yeah, but they still had more than one belt.  My '87 K5 had a "serpentine belt" for the alternator and water pump, with two v-belts driving both the AC & PS, and a separate single v-belt for the smog pump (that made that easy).  A true serpentine belt system has only one belt.  In truth those setups just used a wider, multi rib belt for some accessories, or two such belts for all the accessories, I think to prevent belt squeal once the loads from all the accessories and higher amp alternators started to make v-belts troublesome. 

Interestingly my '02 WRX still has v-belts, and they don't squeal.  PITA to adjust though, and I'd really prefer a serpentine setup. 

 

5/13/2020 1:44 PM  #7


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

TKOPerformance wrote:

That pump doesn't look like any 5.0 water pump I've ever seen.  The one Nos681 posted in what it should look like.

Both garkets are correct.  The first is the water pump to timing cover gasket, the second is the water pump to back cover plate gasket.  That third gassket is for something else.  I'm betting its for a truck application since it lists Cleavland and Modified engines as well as Windsors.  I can tell you from swapping a 351M for a 351W in a mid '80s Bronco all of the accessory drive parts bolted up without issue, and the acessories ran v-belts. 

As stated, if you have a serpentine belt you need a reverse rotation pump.  If you have v-belts you need a standard rotation pump. 

Best I can guess, it's from the F150 / Bronco which ran up to 1985.  Those were 5.0 small block fords too.  Not surprising it would fit.  I'm not sure if having no internal pathways makes the flow more or less.  Whatever direction it was going was the right way b/c the engine was cooling before the valve issue.  I was trying to get more information in the event I had to replace it.   I ordered the correct gasket and new hardware.  It's going back the way it was for right now.  

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5/13/2020 3:47 PM  #8


Re: Water pump Issue Part II: Which water pump do I have?

If it was working I wouldn't reinvent the wheel. 

 

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