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6/20/2020 12:28 PM  #1


Tri-y headers

Could someone explain how they selected the cylinders to pair up starting at cylinder heads?

Or was it just random for space consideration?

 

6/20/2020 1:56 PM  #2


Re: Tri-y headers

The 2nd one.  To really pair cylinders for any kind of benefit you have to cross over between banks.  The tri-Ys do avoid some of the big midrange torque dead spot that long tubes always have, but honestly shorties are a better setup for the street, and easier to package/install. 

 

6/20/2020 3:21 PM  #3


Re: Tri-y headers

There is a scientific way to build headers to extract every last bit of power. It involves equal length tubes and placing the tubes in the collector following the firing order and several other things. Needless to say header designers can't do that when space is limited so the vast majority of headers are a compromise.
The "Bundle of Snakes" headers on the GT40 come as close as possible to creating the perfect set of headers.
https://race-car-replicas.com/parts/bundle-of-snakes-exhaust

 

6/20/2020 8:46 PM  #4


Re: Tri-y headers




I think I may have figured it out.
Following the firing order:

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Or
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no adjacent firing cylinder exhaust pulse hits the first “y” (same or consecutively)

I remember looking at this many years ago and figured out why the driver’s side was done differently.
I had to dig them out so I could see it.
Hey I slept since then.😁

This came about because I was looking at the original intake.
Was wondering which intake ports were paired together on a dual plane intake.
I figured that out as well.

Thanks

Yeah, my wife laughs at what I think about sometimes.😂

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6/20/2020 9:07 PM  #5


Re: Tri-y headers

Study these!!!!!......


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6/21/2020 3:31 AM  #6


Re: Tri-y headers


1964-1/2 D Code Coupe - 289 V8, 4 Speed Toploader, 3.00 ratio rear, Autolite 4100 Carb, 15" tires, Pertronix ignition
 

6/21/2020 10:00 AM  #7


Re: Tri-y headers

That set of Doug’s headers looks like a nightmare to bolt up!!!

I had a set of Heddman 2-1/8 tube headers for another 390 car that I sold. The front 2 cylinders on each side went under the control arm. They were a nightmare to install. I had to unbolt the transmission and slide it back to get the starter in.

This car has the FPA Tri-Y’s on it and they fit pretty good.

Dan, you may be onto something with the firing order. Here is a pic of mine.



The firing order is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

6/22/2020 12:55 PM  #8


Re: Tri-y headers

Those FPA look way better than the Doug’s in that advertisement.

From what I can figure, the H-pipe performed the same task by combining each bank together.
In a simpler manner.

Now here’s something I noticed...oh boy...
The Coyote engine uses a different firing order, but crank appears to still follow same pattern.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

So...are coyote tri-y’s set up same way?

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6/22/2020 1:07 PM  #9


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6/22/2020 5:07 PM  #10


Re: Tri-y headers

The H-pipe does serve a similar function in combining pulses, but the location of that merger is also important.  I'm sure it makes not a lick of difference on a typical street engine, but in racing they spend considerable effort to tune the lengths of the primary pipes, crossover point, etc.

 

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