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9/07/2020 1:16 PM  #1


How do you raise your car without a lift?

How do y’all raise your car to place on tall jack stands? (6 ton or larger)

Like for engine/transmission install or removal.
Or just so you can move around under the car.
Especially for those who have lowered cars as well.

Here’s an example ( thanks Rudi):

Last edited by Nos681 (9/07/2020 1:18 PM)

 

9/07/2020 2:15 PM  #2


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Here are a few more pics of that set up.
 My floor jack goes up about three feet. I made an solid oak block that fits into the bottom of the rad support and strut brackest. It locates very well and is solid no matter how high I take it.
 The car sitting on the jack stands at full extension that are bolted to my rollers gets me up for plenty of room under the car to work on most issues.
 My only problem is that at my age and decrepitness ( izzat a word) it's a pain to set this all up.



Positioning the stands to weld on the tabs so they can be drilled and bolted to the rollers.

 


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

9/07/2020 2:36 PM  #3


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

When  I  put  the  Heap  back  togeather  in 015 I  used  four  roller dollies and eight 12" chunks of 6x6.  That worked pretty  well  and gave me enough  room  to do all the  plumbing, e-brake, etc.  But working  on  your  back  still  sux.


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

9/07/2020 8:03 PM  #4


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

My best friend and I dug a hole under his Buick once to remove and replace the transmission. His Garage had a dirt floor. That was those good old high school days!

 

9/07/2020 8:25 PM  #5


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Back in the day, a coupl'a posts sunk into the ground on the side of a hill, and some planks, was a common sight. I've built one myself on a farm in my youth.


"Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
 

9/07/2020 9:12 PM  #6


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?



The hardest part for me while doing my trans swap was putting the exhaust H pipe back on, lifting it up into position and gettin get bolts in place and holding it at the same time. I blocked my car up with 4X4's on top of tall jack stands which lifted it high enough for the trans bell housing to clear under the car. I have a creeper that the back and the seat both tilt up. I was actually pretty comfortable and my back was not bothered by my inability to not stand up and do the work. BUT the best lift job I've seen here is Bolted to the Floors' pile of lumber he stacked up. If you don't need to take the wheels off.


70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

9/08/2020 10:52 AM  #7


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

I jack up under the frame and slide my Car ramps opposite direction under the tires. Plenty of room to get in underneath the front or side.

 

9/08/2020 12:06 PM  #8


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

 

9/08/2020 4:02 PM  #9


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Yes I have done the same. Had 4 stands under the car so the trany just cleared to remove. Did the dual exhust too this way. I thing I like the new lift much much more.

Last edited by Cab4word67 (9/08/2020 4:06 PM)


Slammed Big Blue, ran over the varmints that messed with the Stang. Now all is good in the NW
 

9/08/2020 5:46 PM  #10


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Now you're just showing off Chris


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

9/08/2020 7:21 PM  #11


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?



Hubert Platt had the right idea...........even back in the 60's! 
I saw him "stand-it-on-the-bumper" at another event.
(just another method of look'in under the car!!

Last edited by 6sally6 (9/08/2020 7:23 PM)


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9/09/2020 5:28 AM  #12


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Jack stands and moving it upwards in several steps.  If I needed more than the jackstands could give I would use wood cribbing underneath.  I saved a bunch of 11-7/8x1-3/4" LVL scraps that I cut square.  Fit under a jackstand just right.

 

9/09/2020 9:56 AM  #13


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

TK the LVLs make great blocking. When I did the garage roof I bought all 3 of my LVLs 24' long now I have 3 nice 30" x 14" pieces to work with if I need to make some blocking. Whats nice is you can buy them any length you want. 

Last edited by Cab4word67 (9/09/2020 9:56 AM)


Slammed Big Blue, ran over the varmints that messed with the Stang. Now all is good in the NW
 

9/11/2020 8:47 AM  #14


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

So that’s the technical for them.

You guys are talking Greek to me with that acronym...LVL.
I use that for “level” in my dictionary.

Remember in school...should use full name ...then the abbreviation? 🤣🤣

Well, I learned something new today.

Last edited by Nos681 (9/11/2020 8:51 AM)

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9/11/2020 9:27 AM  #15


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Nos681 wrote:

So that’s the technical for them.

You guys are talking Greek to me with that acronym...LVL.
I use that for “level” in my dictionary.

Remember in school...should use full name ...then the abbreviation? 🤣🤣

Well, I learned something new today.

 
Yeah, I had to google it, In Canada we call them oriented strand boards, OSB, or OSB engineered trusses when capped.


Good work ain't cheap, Cheap work ain't good!   Simple Man
 

9/11/2020 4:13 PM  #16


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

LVL - Laminated Veneer Lumber.  Basically its a beam made from many different veneers of wood glued together under pressure like plywood.  The wood fibers don't all run the same direction  making them capable of carrying significantly more load and over a longer span than dimensional lumber. 

OSB is a term for sheet material, what we used to just call plywood now goes by the name CDX.  The beams and posts that look like OSB are properly called LSL (Laminated Strand Lumber).  Still pretty strong, but LVLs are stronger for the same size and PSLs stronger still.  Though LSLs are great if you have for example an 18' wall to frame from 2x6s, because you can get them the same size as dimensional lumber, but they are straight (and not twisted, cupped, etc.).

Most dimensional lumber anymore is junk.  I gladly pay the premium for #1 framing material because I get lumber that actually has 4 corners and requires minimal sorting to get all good studs, joists, etc.  If its a basement fitout I'll advise the customer to use metal studs.  For non load bearing walls they are faster to frame with, lighter, and always 100% straight, plus they stay that way forever. 

 

9/11/2020 5:33 PM  #17


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Back in the 70s, remember then? I built a house for a guy who owned the plywood mill in Scappoose Or. yes this is a real town. he wanted plywood stair treads so he went out to the mill where they were running 3/4 plywood and said just make the next 10 sheets 1-1/2, so they just kept stacking and pressing.  We thought he was nuts then. he also went out to the pond and picked a tree for the beam in his office that was 30 feet long, after the 3rd one he got one that didnt check and we installed it for him too.  


Slammed Big Blue, ran over the varmints that messed with the Stang. Now all is good in the NW
 

9/12/2020 6:12 AM  #18


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Plywood plants will still do stuff like that.  Typical sheets are 4x8, but I've ordered 4x9 and 4x10 sheets over the years for taller walls.  That way when sheathing the exterior there's not a seam in the stud cavities, which in most jurisdictions now requires wind blocking.  The cost of the plywood is the same whether I'm using one sheet or a sheet and a piece, but I can avoid the cost of the blocking and the associated labor.

You can special order drywall 16' long, which cuts the number of butt joints in half in long demising walls.  54" wide sheets are also available so on 9' walls you avoid having to use a 1' piece at the top.  Though mostly now I just stand drywall up vertically for a lot of reasons. 

There's a lot of options out there to save time, which anymore is the greatest single expense in construction. 

 

9/12/2020 6:56 AM  #19


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

I went out and bought four 10 ton Sunex 1310 jack stands.  They're huge, beefy, and sturdy.  It allows 19" of lift without the jack extended.  It has almost 30" of lift if fully extended.  With just it sitting on the jack stands without it being raised I have plenty of room to comfortably work on what I need to underneath the car.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rY_Rsv_1eXZj5Byb_USl5yBnPw3199xq/view?usp=sharing
 

Last edited by mustangermike (9/12/2020 6:59 AM)


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9/12/2020 7:36 AM  #20


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

TKO

PSL...parallel strand board?

Didn’t think it meant Pumpkin spiced latte😁

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9/12/2020 8:51 AM  #21


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

I use my good old Craftsman floor jack and jack stands, also have a set of jack stands I welded up in shop class in the 60s. I only jack mine up high enough to fit my body under it. Even when I put the motor and trans in it I only jacked the front. Left the rears on the ground.


"anyone that stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty"Henry Ford
 

9/12/2020 4:02 PM  #22


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Nos681 wrote:

TKO

PSL...parallel strand board?

Didn’t think it meant Pumpkin spiced latte😁

Yep, that is the first thing that typically pops up if you do a search.  Delicious I suppose, but they make lackluster lumber
 

 

9/12/2020 5:23 PM  #23


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

TKOPerformance wrote:

Nos681 wrote:

TKO

PSL...parallel strand board?

Didn’t think it meant Pumpkin spiced latte😁

Yep, that is the first thing that typically pops up if you do a search.  Delicious I suppose, but they make lackluster lumber
 

I have used Parallel Strand Board, never have I had a Pumpkin Spiced Latte. 


Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
 

9/12/2020 8:35 PM  #24


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

mustangermike wrote:

I went out and bought four 10 ton Sunex 1310 jack stands.  They're huge, beefy, and sturdy.  It allows 19" of lift without the jack extended.  It has almost 30" of lift if fully extended.  With just it sitting on the jack stands without it being raised I have plenty of room to comfortably work on what I need to underneath the car.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rY_Rsv_1eXZj5Byb_USl5yBnPw3199xq/view?usp=sharing
 

Even the jack stands are big in Texas! 
Those could double as “shop stools” when not in use Mike.

What do ya use as the card table?

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9/13/2020 8:57 PM  #25


Re: How do you raise your car without a lift?

Nos681 wrote:

mustangermike wrote:

I went out and bought four 10 ton Sunex 1310 jack stands.  They're huge, beefy, and sturdy.  It allows 19" of lift without the jack extended.  It has almost 30" of lift if fully extended.  With just it sitting on the jack stands without it being raised I have plenty of room to comfortably work on what I need to underneath the car.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rY_Rsv_1eXZj5Byb_USl5yBnPw3199xq/view?usp=sharing
 

Even the jack stands are big in Texas! 
Those could double as “shop stools” when not in use Mike.

What do ya use as the card table?

The giant chicken feed bucket. 


Owner of MustangSteve - 1967 Mustang Coupe 302, 2005 Mustang GT
 

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