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9/26/2020 9:21 AM  #1


351w JBA’s

Does anyone have pictures of JBA 1653 and 1655 headers installed on 351w?

Doing some research for a project.
Would like to see the differences on where they exit on driver side.

 

9/26/2020 9:49 AM  #2


Re: 351w JBA’s

Can't help with this, I have BBKs and a MII front end.


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

9/26/2020 1:19 PM  #3


Re: 351w JBA’s

I would be cautious if the car has Borgeson steering on it now or if its planned for the future.  My JBAs, while nice headers, hit the box hard on my '67, and required a pretty good sized dent to clear.  A 351 might be a different story though because the engine is taller than a 302/289.  This could move the header up enough to avoid the interference, but if a Borgeson box is in the car now or in the plans for the future I would ask someone who knows that specific question. 

In general I will say the quality of the JBAs is first rate.  I liked the ones on my '67 so much I bought a set of my '89 GT too. 

 

9/26/2020 3:32 PM  #4


Re: 351w JBA’s

Stock style front end and cable T5 bell housing.

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9/26/2020 7:27 PM  #5


Re: 351w JBA’s

Not sure what part number mine are, but they are designed for cable clutch. I do not have steering box, so clearance is no issue.


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9/26/2020 8:58 PM  #6


Re: 351w JBA’s

Nos681 wrote:

Stock style front end and cable T5 bell housing.

 This is of my 70 with the Z bar. It’s bent over backwards to go over the top of the hoses. I had to cold twist it on both sides to make it line up with the push rods.




70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

9/27/2020 12:59 PM  #7


Re: 351w JBA’s

TKOPerformance wrote:

I would be cautious if the car has Borgeson steering on it now or if its planned for the future.  My JBAs, while nice headers, hit the box hard on my '67, and required a pretty good sized dent to clear.  A 351 might be a different story though because the engine is taller than a 302/289.  This could move the header up enough to avoid the interference, but if a Borgeson box is in the car now or in the plans for the future I would ask someone who knows that specific question. 

In general I will say the quality of the JBAs is first rate.  I liked the ones on my '67 so much I bought a set of my '89 GT too. 

I have the JBA shorties in my 68 with the 351W. 67-68 engine bays are the same and I also have the Borgeson steering box in mine. I have no clearance problems with the headers or the Borgeson box. The only issue I had with the JBA installation on the 351W was that I had to cut off a small 1/2" protrusion on the block at the forward end on the driver's side to get enough clearance for the tube on the #5 cylinder exhaust. My block was from a 1976 Torino. I also have GT40 cylinder heads from a 98 Explorer 5.0L, so maybe that contributed to the issue, or maybe not.

Last edited by Ron68 (9/27/2020 1:15 PM)


68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
 

9/27/2020 1:25 PM  #8


Re: 351w JBA’s


68 coupe - 351W, 4R70W, 9" 3.25 -- 65 convertible - 289 4v, C4, 8" 3.00
 

9/27/2020 2:02 PM  #9


Re: 351w JBA’s

Oh yeah, I forgot, my left front header hits the block ledge also. My block is a 73 with Eldebrock Performer heads. I had to modify the header but it is right at the bend and was hard to persuade.

Last edited by HudginJ3 (9/27/2020 2:03 PM)


70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
 

9/27/2020 5:35 PM  #10


Re: 351w JBA’s



Here's an old photo of my 66 from underneath.  You can see the steering box (stock style) upper center, clutch linkage center.  These are the 1653 units and they are from the early 2000's (the photo was taken in 2003).  I have a 71 block and I had the E7 heads on it when this was taken.

Not the greatest photo but maybe it will help you.

Last edited by John Ha (9/27/2020 5:36 PM)


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9/27/2020 10:12 PM  #11


Re: 351w JBA’s



I was able to find a picture online of the JBA 1653 (351w).

Anyone running these with T5 bell housing (cable setup) and 351w?
To me this looks like a No-Go.
Running stock gear box too

Last edited by Nos681 (9/27/2020 10:18 PM)

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9/28/2020 5:01 AM  #12


Re: 351w JBA’s

Nos681 wrote:

I was able to find a picture online of the JBA 1653 (351w).  Anyone running these with T5 bell housing (cable setup) and 351w?  

I had that setup (cable clutch, T5, 1653's).  It worked but I'd made a bracket to hold the cable close to the engine oil pan and a heat shield around the cable where it ran close to the header.  Eventually the cable still got too hot and melted the inside of the cable sheath to the cable though.  Sorry but I could not find a photo of that setup (I don't have that engine in the car anymore).
 


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9/28/2020 3:48 PM  #13


Re: 351w JBA’s

Thanks for sharing information.
Looks like I will skip this option.

I had run across 1653 ( non cable) and at a great price.

Not giving up my cable clutch.

Last edited by Nos681 (9/28/2020 3:50 PM)

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9/28/2020 7:54 PM  #14


Re: 351w JBA’s

I have a pair for sale but they are not for fitment with cable clutch. Somebody with an automatic could get a good deal.


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9/29/2020 11:17 AM  #15


Re: 351w JBA’s

MS wrote:

I have a pair for sale but they are not for fitment with cable clutch. Somebody with an automatic could get a good deal.

   Ill PM on those headers.
 

 

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