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What anti-freeze/coolant you guys recommend for engine with aluminum heads, intake and radiator ?
thanks
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I have used Prestone 50/50 with distilled water in my 331 from day one. I also have aluminum heads, intake and rad.
The block was tanked and completely clean when the engine was built, the Champion rad was new with all new silicone hoses.
I am running the same coolant when the engine was installed about ten years ago and it is still perfectly clear, unless I hear otherwise I won’t change it. I think antifreeze does not wear out, it gets contaminated.
I have no filter in the system.
YMMV
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John Deere Cool-Guard II
No real reason other than it is supposed to be pretty good stuff.
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Bentworker wrote:
John Deere Cool-Guard II
No real reason other than it is supposed to be pretty good stuff.
As a 38 year Deere employee I can tell you “ Nothing runs like a Deere and smells like a John”
I hope their anti freeze is of a different odour.
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Rudi wrote:
Bentworker wrote:
John Deere Cool-Guard II
No real reason other than it is supposed to be pretty good stuff.
As a 38 year Deere employee I can tell you “ Nothing runs like a Deere and smells like a John”
I hope their anti freeze is of a different odour.
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6s6
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Good one Rudi
I use the green colored coolant.
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Type, color, etc. means far, far less than that you change it as you should. I use regular old green NAPA coolant 50/50 with distilled water.
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I use this with my old 289 and Champion rad. I know it says GM but really what could be the difference? AutoZone 50/50 Dex-Cool Antifreeze and Coolant AutoZone extended life antifreeze and coolant is formulated for use in all general motors vehicles that require this type of antifreeze.
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Cab4word67 wrote:
I use this with my old 289 and Champion rad. I know it says GM but really what could be the difference? AutoZone 50/50 Dex-Cool Antifreeze and Coolant AutoZone extended life antifreeze and coolant is formulated for use in all general motors vehicles that require this type of antifreeze.
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Just don't mix the orange with the green!! " I've heard" mixing the two turns it to pudding!
6sally6
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I try and keep it simple. All my vehicles, now 3, get Rotella ELC NF coolant as the largest user is my F-250 Diesel and the ELC is what it requires.
A bigger question; how do you guys dispose of the old? Back in the day I just used to let it drain into the gutter to be washed away with the next rain. Heck, my Dad taught me how to dispose of oil down the toilet or dig a hole in the backyard. Living now where we do with a personal septic system and water well I try and catch all I can. Oil is easy to dispose of at the local auto parts, antifreeze not so.
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Same problem with brake fluid. I can't find anyone who will take it.
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RV6 wrote:
I try and keep it simple. All my vehicles, now 3, get Rotella ELC NF coolant as the largest user is my F-250 Diesel and the ELC is what it requires.
A bigger question; how do you guys dispose of the old? Back in the day I just used to let it drain into the gutter to be washed away with the next rain. Heck, my Dad taught me how to dispose of oil down the toilet or dig a hole in the backyard. Living now where we do with a personal septic system and water well I try and catch all I can. Oil is easy to dispose of at the local auto parts, antifreeze not so.
Weight/Watt!!.....You means stray cats don't like it anymore??!
Ain't that funny?.........(Not FUNNY just.....funny-funny ....thx Carl Childers) Oil comes from the ground butt......can't go BACK on the ground!?
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6sally6 wrote:
Oil comes from the ground butt......can't go BACK on the ground!?
The largest oil spill in history occurred 30 miles from where I live, and it didn't contaminate the ground water.
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here in the PNW they will only take the milk jugs with oil that is black. So if I need to get rid of other stuf I make sure it is black when I set it out. So far so good
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Years ago we used to take the oil to Pep Boys. We would wait until we had a couple gallons to make the trip worthwhile. Then they tried to cap how much they would take at like 2 gallons at time. I told the guy he was taking all of it or I was going to sealcoat the parking lot with the rest. Begrudgingly they took it, but after that we had to look for a new spot.
The municipalities started putting up these recycling centers with self service igloos that took everything, including waste oil. So we used those for a couple years, then they disappeared.
Fortunately my neighbor runs a shop out of his place and has a waste oil tank, so I started dumping it there. He didn't care because he didn't have to pay to get rid of it. They burn it in generators somewhere. He always said water/coolant and any other kind of fluids including gas or Diesel were also okay to put in there so long as most of the tank was waste oil. Fuel was best to dump in right before it got drained, or it would stink up the shop.
I happened into a brand new fuel oil tank a couple years back so I set up a waste oil tank in my own shop to avoid having to transport the oil to my neighbors. When it gets full I'll have the guy that does his drain mine.
And before we used to dispose of the oil properly I dumped gallons of it on the rocks by my shop. It kept the weeds at bay. Eventually I decided that was a bad idea what with a well and all, but honestly my well is over 100 feet deep. I'm sure the surface soil is contaminated, but the well is fine.
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Here in NY, automotive oil is accepted at any service station. My friends service station actually uses this oil for heating his place. Other automotive "chemicals" go to the local county run recycling center.
I'll note that if the county didn't make arrangements accept this waste, you'd find it dumped somewhere, so if the authorities want to protect the environment, they have to make facilities available to accept it.
I'll note that as a kid growing up, everyone simply dumped all these fluids down the sewer, and the sewers dumped out into the local rivers and ocean.
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Most large and small trucking companies recycle green and yellow coolant on the spot and some do accept it. I save it for filling tractor tires. Used engine oil for many years gets mixed in our home heating oil. Nothing goes to waste around here.
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I did find used oil mixed with just a bit of gasoline worked very well for starting fires. I used to call it free Diesel fuel. Not technically accurate as we had to pay for the gas, but pretty close. I found that trying to start fires where the fuel was wet, not seasoned, etc. gasoline would burn out too quickly. The used oil slowed the burn, allowed it to dry out and by the point it was used up the fuel was going strong. This was always outside, bonfires and burn piles for yard waste, etc. I did burn clean scrap from construction jobs many times (no treated of course). Heck, when I was a kid, lacking trash service we used to burn all the trash like once a month in a burn pit. Fire company showed up once to twice due to a call from someone who saw the smoke. They just said "everything looks under control" and left. Times really have changed.
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TKOPerformance wrote:
I did find used oil mixed with just a bit of gasoline worked very well for starting fires. I used to call it free Diesel fuel. Not technically accurate as we had to pay for the gas, but pretty close. I found that trying to start fires where the fuel was wet, not seasoned, etc. gasoline would burn out too quickly. The used oil slowed the burn, allowed it to dry out and by the point it was used up the fuel was going strong. This was always outside, bonfires and burn piles for yard waste, etc. I did burn clean scrap from construction jobs many times (no treated of course). Heck, when I was a kid, lacking trash service we used to burn all the trash like once a month in a burn pit. Fire company showed up once to twice due to a call from someone who saw the smoke. They just said "everything looks under control" and left. Times really have changed.
Hey TKO!!.......You didn't make a trip out to California earlier this summer did you?!!
Yeah...when I was a kid that was one of my chores..........Burn the garbage can once a week. We had EVERYTHING........in that can!! MAN did that thang stink sometimes!
Really cool when dadz empty shaving cream cans exploded!! Sorta like a grenade!.......
(Hangar-nade if......UR from Alabama!)
6sally6
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6sally6 wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I did find used oil mixed with just a bit of gasoline worked very well for starting fires. I used to call it free Diesel fuel. Not technically accurate as we had to pay for the gas, but pretty close. I found that trying to start fires where the fuel was wet, not seasoned, etc. gasoline would burn out too quickly. The used oil slowed the burn, allowed it to dry out and by the point it was used up the fuel was going strong. This was always outside, bonfires and burn piles for yard waste, etc. I did burn clean scrap from construction jobs many times (no treated of course). Heck, when I was a kid, lacking trash service we used to burn all the trash like once a month in a burn pit. Fire company showed up once to twice due to a call from someone who saw the smoke. They just said "everything looks under control" and left. Times really have changed.
Hey TKO!!.......You didn't make a trip out to California earlier this summer did you?!!
Yeah...when I was a kid that was one of my chores..........Burn the garbage can once a week. We had EVERYTHING........in that can!! MAN did that thang stink sometimes!
Really cool when dadz empty shaving cream cans exploded!! Sorta like a grenade!.......
(Hangar-nade if......UR from Alabama!)
6sally6
Back in 67 or 68 was the last year we could burn our garbage. Every house had an incinerator in the back yard and there was a concrete walkway to the incinerator. I was chief incinerator in those days and loved my job. At times it stunk good, others not so good. I still like burning and blowing up things.
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RV6 wrote:
6sally6 wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I did find used oil mixed with just a bit of gasoline worked very well for starting fires. I used to call it free Diesel fuel. Not technically accurate as we had to pay for the gas, but pretty close. I found that trying to start fires where the fuel was wet, not seasoned, etc. gasoline would burn out too quickly. The used oil slowed the burn, allowed it to dry out and by the point it was used up the fuel was going strong. This was always outside, bonfires and burn piles for yard waste, etc. I did burn clean scrap from construction jobs many times (no treated of course). Heck, when I was a kid, lacking trash service we used to burn all the trash like once a month in a burn pit. Fire company showed up once to twice due to a call from someone who saw the smoke. They just said "everything looks under control" and left. Times really have changed.
Hey TKO!!.......You didn't make a trip out to California earlier this summer did you?!!
Yeah...when I was a kid that was one of my chores..........Burn the garbage can once a week. We had EVERYTHING........in that can!! MAN did that thang stink sometimes!
Really cool when dadz empty shaving cream cans exploded!! Sorta like a grenade!.......
(Hangar-nade if......UR from Alabama!)
6sally6
Back in 67 or 68 was the last year we could burn our garbage. Every house had an incinerator in the back yard and there was a concrete walkway to the incinerator. I was chief incinerator in those days and loved my job. At times it stunk good, others not so good. I still like burning and blowing up things.
I KNEW I liked you Gary!!
6sal6
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6sally6 wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
I did find used oil mixed with just a bit of gasoline worked very well for starting fires. I used to call it free Diesel fuel. Not technically accurate as we had to pay for the gas, but pretty close. I found that trying to start fires where the fuel was wet, not seasoned, etc. gasoline would burn out too quickly. The used oil slowed the burn, allowed it to dry out and by the point it was used up the fuel was going strong. This was always outside, bonfires and burn piles for yard waste, etc. I did burn clean scrap from construction jobs many times (no treated of course). Heck, when I was a kid, lacking trash service we used to burn all the trash like once a month in a burn pit. Fire company showed up once to twice due to a call from someone who saw the smoke. They just said "everything looks under control" and left. Times really have changed.
Hey TKO!!.......You didn't make a trip out to California earlier this summer did you?!!
Yeah...when I was a kid that was one of my chores..........Burn the garbage can once a week. We had EVERYTHING........in that can!! MAN did that thang stink sometimes!
Really cool when dadz empty shaving cream cans exploded!! Sorta like a grenade!.......
(Hangar-nade if......UR from Alabama!)
6sally6
NO! No one can prove that!
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