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Hi guys, I'm desperately trying to use a vintage 2-post Pioneer Stereo Cassette player in my 68 console car.
The unit I found came complete with Knobs, and I can't freakin use them!?!?! It's complete nonsense how ford designed that radio housing.
Is there a mod or trick? I really want, and frankly the unit needs those knobs to properly control the features.
(The Pioneer 2000 with the small knobs will be for sale)
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Ahhhh, the old '80s "can't find a radio with shafts that line up with factory holes" dilemma. Gosh, it's been years...
The reason many of us have repaired a hacked up dash is because Ford used an unpopular dimension between the shafts. Aftermarket stuff at 5 1/8" does not line up. HOWEVER, there are a few reputable radio companies that make a two-shaft unit with ADJUSTABLE shafts. Custom AutoSound started the trend and now Retrosound has also adapted their product line. Below the place where the shaft goes into the housing there are a few little holes that allow adjustment for wider/narrower placement. The unit you are holding does not have those variety of holes.
I am glad you love your radio. Finding the Goldilocks "just right"-sound is joyous. The other method many of us old-timers will tell you is to wallow out the holes left-right. A drill press can be more precise.
Looking at your pics, I have the same console for my Mustang, and wouldn't DREAM of hacking it up! Headphones, Apple Earbuds?
In my current builds, I have switched over to Bluetooth-controlled "Secret Auto Sound" that street rodders use. The "head unit" is your phone, the Amp and Outputs are under the seat. Beautiful sound, but pricey.
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Hey Prof thank you for the response......
But my concerns aren't the shaft distance between one another, it's about How the Radio Knobs Fit for the factory radio vs. aftermarket.
Those 2 large cavities prevent aftermarket radio knobs from working. The factory have the conical balance and tone controls.
I gotta get this Pioneer to work, I need help with how to make it work with the knobs.......hacking up my console is out of the question, but if I have to buy a second radio mount bezel I will, but I want one unmolested
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The real question is where are you going to mount the turntable?
Just do what I did, buy an aftermarket bezel and modify it as needed. DO NOT use one of the plastic ones as there's no way it will properly support that dinosaur. I'd seriously look at getting some kind of additional support for the back as well.
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TKO I can't find an aftermarket 68 console Bezel.
I think there is only 2 originals on eBay that have nothing broken, the others do, and there is not many
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From your issue description I think the problem is that the knobs will not fit into the recesses in the padded console. If that is the problem you may have to see if a set of extensions of some sort can be made to bring the knobs out from the console.
My Custom Auto Sound radio came with the long knobs needed for the one year only 68 console.
In retrospect for the amount I listen to the radio, I could have left the O/E one in there and saved some money.
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Cougarman modified his 68 console. Maybe he can post pics.
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Hmn, I see there are no reproductions. I don't have a console, so just have the standard bezel, which is reproduced. I incorrectly assumed the console one would be as well.
Looking at it on eBay I would say you have two options, buy a used one and modify it, or fabricate something entirely new. I'm not a fan of modifying original parts, so I'd probably look to build something new. The original is pot metal anyway, so modifying it could prove difficult.
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Apparently you’re not afraid to take stuff apart.
This is my suggestion.
Open up cover on the radio.
See if there is any additional adjustment to bring shafts outward.
If you’re lucky🤞🏼, there might be more threads on the shafts.
On each shaft, there will be a lock washer and nut most likely on both sides.
Could get away with only exterior washer.
As for shaft spacing.
The phillips screw is holding the “shaft plate” at specific distance.
There might be more holes or a slot or drill new “location “ holes for shaft plates.
Depending on space available, you might be able to adjust up/down as well so console will not require modifications.
Just ensure, contacts and wires don’t ground out to housing...
unless you want to let the smoke out it.
Good luck.
Cool stereo.
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I understand where you are coming from. Those treb/bass & front/rear knobs need to be turned down at their base in order to fit into the recessed area on the bezel. Wasn't pretty!, but one time on a Jensen unit, I took a dremel to the outside diameter of the two-position knobs so they would fit in the recesses. Then I adjusted the radio sound levels with it UNINSTALLED, set everything, and installed it. On a positive note, no one ever messed with my settings. Couldn't if they had wanted to.
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This photo of a '68 Console shows a cast pocket for the radio knob. It is this pocket that is your issue, correct? Assuming so, I don't see any magic about getting it to work with those controls.
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That looks like a 1967 console, unless I can't see the padding from that picture.
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Rufus68 wrote:
This photo of a '68 Console shows a cast pocket for the radio knob. It is this pocket that is your issue, correct? Assuming so, I don't see any magic about getting it to work with those controls.
Mark is correct, that is a 67 console. 68’s are padded and the seat belt pockets are situated further back.
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I have a blutooth radio in my glove box and made new face and top for my center console
Eliminating the radio hole and put my ac bents in its place and added a small arm rest with cup holder to the base
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Rudi, mighty fine looking interior!
BT, is that real burlwood? Definitely a different look, very European. Very nicely done!
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TKOPerformance wrote:
Rudi, mighty fine looking interior!
BT, is that real burlwood? Definitely a different look, very European. Very nicely done!
Yes it is, but not mine!
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Alrighty, and now how about BACK TO DEALING WITH the recessed pockets for the radio install and THE KNOBS!!!...thank you.
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3D printer??
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50vert wrote:
3D printer??
Now that's an idea! Printed out of something tough like Nylon and then wrapped I think that's the best plan yet. You'd need someone with a decent sized print bed and the ability to do a drawing of the original and then modify it for the new head unit.
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Rufus68 wrote:
This photo of a '68 Console shows a cast pocket for the radio knob. It is this pocket that is your issue, correct? Assuming so, I don't see any magic about getting it to work with those controls.
This is a 67 Console......and far as I can tell, 67 consoles only are reproduced. (Likely cause 68 are stupid with he padding design and makes no sense to make such large changes in such a insignificant part in 1yrs difference).
Thank you everyone for your efforts, this has been a nightmare 🤣. I too have done something similiar as of now, (setting the radio pre-install and not being able to change it post).
Last edited by M1Mustang69 (10/17/2020 9:08 AM)
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