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Depending on applicable state law, Dynacorn bodies can be a pain in the a$$ when it comes time to title, register and inspect them. This thread prompted me to take a look at state law last night and I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could title and register a Dynacorn body as a "custom vehicle" which would exempt it from annual inspection. That would not have been the case in my prior state. Of course, if I did build a car from a Dynacorn body in my current state and then moved to another state, who knows how that state would treat it and if they'd subject it to annual inspection.
Most (all?) states have rules that exempt antiques or classics from annual inspections....IMO that is a huge benefit to buying an original v building a Dynacorn.
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Yes, and that depends on inspections State to State. There are 7 States that have no inspection for ANY vehicle, and 2 more that only do inspections under very limited circumstances. There are exemptions for antiques and other vehicles in all other States, so long as the vehicle was made prior to '75 (some places its as new as '95). I would go ahead and posit that in CA anything you do with a vehicle is going to be a royal PITA. States like GA and TX seem to be pretty hobby friendly and willing to work with you. States like my native DE are somewhere in the middle.
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SC did away with "inspections" years ago!
There was so much graft & corruption(who'd-a thunk-it? ..they made it a loop hole so state troopers could write you a ticket for un-safe vehicles.......(yeah, that solved it!
I would think it's a safe bet that SC has no more accidents from un-safe vehicles than states that require it.
6sal6
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TKOPerformance wrote:
Yes, and that depends on inspections State to State. There are 7 States that have no inspection for ANY vehicle, and 2 more that only do inspections under very limited circumstances. There are exemptions for antiques and other vehicles in all other States, so long as the vehicle was made prior to '75 (some places its as new as '95). I would go ahead and posit that in CA anything you do with a vehicle is going to be a royal PITA. States like GA and TX seem to be pretty hobby friendly and willing to work with you. States like my native DE are somewhere in the middle.
I don't know TKO. in 1989 I replaced the worn out 289 with a mild 351w and the smog guy said that it was ok. A standard replacement engine. He knew exactly what it was/is and what I had done to it. BTW: He was an Indian from India, so he was definitely not a car guy. Also after that decision, the car passed smog with flying colors. Don't bad mouth the calif smog guys. Most of them are good guys and easy to work with. Can't say the same about those in car dealerships.
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I've owned a 95 Suburban since 2000 in CA. The only smog it's ever needed was for its first CA registration.
So I can't complain bout CA smog laws.
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Try a simple engine swap in Cali.
Had a friend who was a smog technician.
The visual was the first step. If it was stock on a factory engine, it had to be on the engine to install into my 65.
I don’t know if this has changed since 90’s.
I had even asked,”Even if the new engine without all of the extras burned cleaner than original 289?”
Answer was YES....IT’s THE STUPIDITY.
There was a couple of catches that got my attention and i understood why the magazines did some projects a certain way without always explaining to readers.
They referenced everything from engine block numbers/castings.
You could swap all 5.0 internals into a 289 block, then all that was required on a 65 cali 289...pcv valve.
If you had a 66, air pump and all associated emissions and pcv valve.
Just because block = C5AE
Dropping a 5.0 from a foxbody required ALL of the sensors (EVR, EGR, solenoids, air pump, charcoal canister, purge solenoid, catalytic converters, check engine light...etc.
A magazine article that remember well was Mustangs Plus installing Efi from a foxbody onto a 289 engine.
That’s why you’ll see the EGR spacer on converted Cali cars.
Like I said earlier that was ancient history.
And 65’s were exempt from Smog checks at the start of the bi-annual inspection.
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a friend of mine bought a 67 Mustang FB out of Midland, in a garage, tires almost flat, wood piled under the car, so I am looking or trying to look at the floor boards can not find any rust. he stole the car at almost 9K. we get the tires aired up and pull it out of the garage where it had been sitting for about 5 years. open the hood, with some difficulty I can run the engine over, so we know it's not locked up. typical of cars out here the head liner was shot but the seats had been redone. when the car went to paint all the glass out of the car, all the little rivets that held the clips of the trim were there, no rust on the car anywhere. they are out there but not so easy to find and sometimes you just get lucky.
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lowercasesteve wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
Yes, and that depends on inspections State to State. There are 7 States that have no inspection for ANY vehicle, and 2 more that only do inspections under very limited circumstances. There are exemptions for antiques and other vehicles in all other States, so long as the vehicle was made prior to '75 (some places its as new as '95). I would go ahead and posit that in CA anything you do with a vehicle is going to be a royal PITA. States like GA and TX seem to be pretty hobby friendly and willing to work with you. States like my native DE are somewhere in the middle.
I don't know TKO. in 1989 I replaced the worn out 289 with a mild 351w and the smog guy said that it was ok. A standard replacement engine. He knew exactly what it was/is and what I had done to it. BTW: He was an Indian from India, so he was definitely not a car guy. Also after that decision, the car passed smog with flying colors. Don't bad mouth the calif smog guys. Most of them are good guys and easy to work with. Can't say the same about those in car dealerships.
I fairness that was over 30 years ago. Today there is a pre '76 exemption for all vehicles in CA. I don't know when that went into effect, but that could be reason it was OK. It could also be that you can swap engines in CA under a couple conditions:
1.) The new engine is the same year as the old and retains the original emissions equipment.
2.) The new engine is newer that the model year of the vehicle and retains the engine's emissions equipment.
3.) The vehicle is exempt from emissions testing due to age or GVWR (14,000 in CA is the cutoff).
Or, you maybe just had a good natured tech. I'm sure there are car guys in India. This board pretty much proves that they exists all over the world.
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50vert wrote:
I've owned a 95 Suburban since 2000 in CA. The only smog it's ever needed was for its first CA registration.
So I can't complain bout CA smog laws.
There are two possible exemptions that vehicle falls under. If its GVWR is over 14,000 its exempt regardless of model year. If its a Diesel its exempt under BAR97, which exempts Diesel vehicles built prior to the '97 model year.
I'm by no means complaining about the CA laws; they were enacted to address a real problem. I remember seeing pictures of LA from a distance years ago and how thick and nasty the smog was. All I'm saying is that DUE to the smog laws swapping things around is more difficult than in most other States, so in the vein of investigating the legality of making major vehicle changes prior to doing the work I would expect to have to jump through more hoops in CA than I would in my native DE or other States which are even less restrictive still. In DE if the vehicle is required to pass inspection it can have whatever you want in it provided it passes. All Diesels are exempt. Antiques are all exempt if properly titled. Anything with ODBII just needs to pass the "no CEL/no indication of computer reset" criteria to pass. Without ODBII they check for a converter if originally equipped) with a mirror and do an idle smog test. All in all its pretty easy. If your mind is swimming with the things you could get away with using technological wizardry, tuning tricks, fuel additives, etc., yep, we already know, and yep, it all flies.
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val fulesday wrote:
a friend of mine bought a 67 Mustang FB out of Midland, in a garage, tires almost flat, wood piled under the car, so I am looking or trying to look at the floor boards can not find any rust. he stole the car at almost 9K. we get the tires aired up and pull it out of the garage where it had been sitting for about 5 years. open the hood, with some difficulty I can run the engine over, so we know it's not locked up. typical of cars out here the head liner was shot but the seats had been redone. when the car went to paint all the glass out of the car, all the little rivets that held the clips of the trim were there, no rust on the car anywhere. they are out there but not so easy to find and sometimes you just get lucky.
Wow, how times have changed. My '67 fastback was a bit pricey at $3,500 and it was a running and driving car. I paid the premium because the body was in pretty good shape compared to all the other Mustangs I looked at before it.
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Since the topic has jumped the tracks, I'll share some superfluous info. After buying my 351w 69 Mach 1 in early 1989, I did some smog requirement research. The only smog equipment needed on mine was what the called a nox piece that plugged into the pcv hose I believe. The visual test was still in use so I looked into which motors were available in 1968. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could use a 250 straight 6, 302, 351, 390, 428 or a 429. I knew then I had bought the right car.
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The stupidity was referring to engine swaps not my friend or the techs.
No you can’t swap engines ...but you can follow the city buses spewing out black smoke.
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50vert wrote:
I've owned a 95 Suburban since 2000 in CA. The only smog it's ever needed was for its first CA registration.
So I can't complain bout CA smog laws.
Probably should'a mentioned, it's in a smog exempt county.
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50vert wrote:
50vert wrote:
I've owned a 95 Suburban since 2000 in CA. The only smog it's ever needed was for its first CA registration.
So I can't complain bout CA smog laws.Probably should'a mentioned, it's in a smog exempt county.
And that's kind of CA in a nutshell. A lot of people assume that CA is a unified State where everyone thinks/votes/feels the same, but like a lot to States it really depends on where in the State you live. Northern CA and Southern CA are quite different.
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50vert wrote:
50vert wrote:
I've owned a 95 Suburban since 2000 in CA. The only smog it's ever needed was for its first CA registration.
So I can't complain bout CA smog laws.Probably should'a mentioned, it's in a smog exempt county.
My favorite topic, idiot politicians. They can't figure out that some areas don't have smog because the wind blows it to other areas.
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6sally6 wrote:
SC did away with "inspections" years ago!
There was so much graft & corruption(who'd-a thunk-it?..they made it a loop hole so state troopers could write you a ticket for un-safe vehicles.......(yeah, that solved it!
I would think it's a safe bet that SC has no more accidents from un-safe vehicles than states that require it.
6sal6
Back some where in the 70's PA had inspections twice a year. When they changed it to once a year politicians were complaining the roads would be unsafe.When I went to school in OHIO there was no state inspection. I had a friend that got stopped for running a stop sign. He told the cop it wasn't his fault, the brakes stopped working. Cop asked him if he wanted a ticket for running the stop or his car impounded for faulty breaks.
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How dismantled is it?
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True74yamaha wrote:
How dismantled is it?
I posted it in Craigslist list finds on this forum.
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I didn’t realize you had linked the add in the other area. The link now shows the add has been deleted. Did ya buy it already???
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