FYI FORD MustangSteve's Ford Mustang Forum / Aluminum Windser

**Posted by BobE** 6/30/2024 7:41 AM

Maybe for your next project?

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/aluminum-427-ford-windsor-engine-dyno-test/

**Posted by MS** **Online!** 6/30/2024 8:02 AM

My Dart aluminum big bore 427 Windsor (4.0” stroke, 4.125” bore) just turned 30,000 miles in my 66 fastback.

Installed it in 2010, right before Jerry’s Tennessee bash.

**Posted by rpm** 6/30/2024 10:11 AM

I somehow missed the price of the Prestige motor in the article.

**Posted by RTM** 6/30/2024 10:47 AM

That’s my dream is to build an all aluminum 351W.

**Posted by Rudi** 6/30/2024 12:27 PM

RTM wrote:
That’s my dream is to build an all aluminum 351W.

Like I once told someone . . . . . the aluminum block price is only pennies a mile more than the iron one!😋

**Posted by RTM** 6/30/2024 4:29 PM

Rudi wrote:
RTM wrote:
That’s my dream is to build an all aluminum 351W.

Like I once told someone . . . . . the aluminum block price is only pennies a mile more than the iron one!😋

After this build and the next build. Maybe I’ll build another new engine for my 66 and sell the one that’s in it.

**Posted by Nos681** 6/30/2024 7:11 PM

RPM, aka Bearing Bob wrote:
I somehow missed the price of the Prestige motor in the article.

If you gotta ask…😂

**Posted by Texas!** 6/30/2024 8:51 PM

RPM, aka Bearing Bob wrote:
I somehow missed the price of the Prestige motor in the article.

How about $8269 for the bare block?
https://www.shelbyengines.com/products/finished-block-1?variant=167629252

**Posted by rpm** 6/30/2024 10:19 PM

Texas! wrote:
RPM, aka Bearing Bob wrote:
I somehow missed the price of the Prestige motor in the article.
How about $8269 for the bare block?
https://www.shelbyengines.com/products/finished-block-1?variant=167629252

Uh ya, no.

**Posted by 6sally6** 7/01/2024 12:03 PM

Might as well go for the FE (real-deal) ...!
6sal6 (its great to spend other guyz $$$!)

**Posted by TKOPerformance** 7/01/2024 6:42 PM

Dove and Pond both make aluminum FE blocks. Might actually be cheaper than that 315 block from Shelby. How much of Carrol's ashes are cast into that thing? Jesus!

**Posted by Bolted to Floor** 7/02/2024 11:48 AM

Is FE cubes for almost FE prices a fair statement??

$8269 looks like a good round number for Shelby to tag on the 351 and the FE blocks. Who woulda thunk they would be the same!!

I would have to opt out of those and stick with cast iron.

What motors has Ford mass produced that are all aluminum? That should be a much more cost effective path. Had a buddy that got an all aluminum 5.3 for his Vette. He turned it into a 5.7 and makes close the the same HP and torque of my FE at 1/3 the cost!!

Is there a problem with the math in here somewhere??

**Posted by TKOPerformance** 7/02/2024 1:36 PM

Bolted to Floor wrote:
Is FE cubes for almost FE prices a fair statement??

$8269 looks like a good round number for Shelby to tag on the 351 and the FE blocks. Who woulda thunk they would be the same!!

I would have to opt out of those and stick with cast iron.

What motors has Ford mass produced that are all aluminum? That should be a much more cost effective path. Had a buddy that got an all aluminum 5.3 for his Vette. He turned it into a 5.7 and makes close the the same HP and torque of my FE at 1/3 the cost!!

Is there a problem with the math in here somewhere??

Sadly, bowtie stuck with a pushord engine which is cheap and makes gobs of power. Ford's response was to stick to an undersized OHC modular engine. You want torque? Better get yourself a blower. The newer generation (Coyote) is very complicated and expensive, or they have the Ecoboost V6 that makes a lot of power with twin turbos, but again, expensive and complicated. You can throw a carb on an LS by comparison. Ford missed the boat IMO, but then they sell more vehicles so they don't really care.

**Posted by BobE** 7/03/2024 6:14 AM

TKO - I agree, the LT & LS engiens are used in many GM vehicles and therefore are available in many junk yards. The Coyote engine is a good engine, however it is rare to find in a junk yard, and is a very wide engine making it difficult to fit into many cars ... like the early Mustangs w/o also removing the shock towers.

**Posted by RTM** 7/03/2024 7:46 AM

I agree the cost is prohibitive, but I’m always looking and maybe one day I’ll stumble upon a deal to good to pass up.

**Posted by TKOPerformance** 7/03/2024 8:03 AM

Pond's FE blocks are about $6k. I guess Carrol's name is worth $2k.