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FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 6/22/2018 4:40 AM |
I don't know guys, this issue with the brakes now has me paranoid. I'm second guessing the push rod length being the culprit. Am I using the correct MC for my disc/disc application? Over the last couple days I read somewhere that the disc/drum MC's have some type of internal valve that bleeds pressure from the rears more slowly. Is this a function of the PB6.1 iron master cylinder that I have installed? This, in combination of the description I see in MS's web store has got me concerned. I just want to make sure I have the correct components before I move on to something else here with the car.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 6/19/2018 3:42 AM |
We do have the parking brakes hooked up in the rear of the car. I understand that the application of the parking brake adjusts the calipers out to the pads, as the car is driven. Last night I took the MC pushrod out and compared it to a couple that we had in the garage. Our suspicion was that we somehow mixed up one of the push rods when we installed everything initially. I put a shorter push rod in, which resulted in a bit more slop in the pedal but then took the car up and down the driveway a dozen or so times and could not replicate the issue that occurred the day prior. I don't know, maybe the pushrod we had in was a tad too long, I really had to force it in, and it was depressing the plunger in the mc enough to tighten the already closely adjusted rear brakes. We'll see how it goes.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 6/18/2018 6:09 AM |
Well everyone, Since my last post, work on the 65 has been sporadic with work, other projects and a baby but, progress none the less. I come to you guys with an issue that has us stumped at the moment.
The car is ready for a few final touches of body work before we spray it, so yesterday I fired it up and decided to drive it the mile from my dads place to my house so I can put an hour on it in the evenings, until its ready to paint. This was basically the first time the car has been out of the garage on its own power, ever, so I took it up and down his driveway, about 400 foot driveway, a dozen times or so, making sure it stops, no crazy issues, etc. All systems were a go, it was running good, stopping good, etc. We make the decision to get on the road. I get a quarter mile down the road and go to shift into 3rd or 4th gear and the car feels like its dragging. Soon as I push the clutch in to shift it was like the brakes were on. I get it turned around and limp back to my dads, and get it up to the house. Brake pedal is hard as a rock. So, we're kind of shocked as to whats going on. Let the car sit for 20 minutes or so while we're discussing what went on. We can see that the rear tires are just loaded with road tar, like they were hanging up/spinning or a combination of the two. Pull the car into the garage, now the brakes feel free and the car rolls right in. I block it up expecting there to be an issue with one of the calipers, everything turns freely.
Now, just so we're on the same page, the set up on this car consists of grenada front spindles/disc brakes, Versailles 9 inch rear with a traction lock unit with 3.55 gears, with disc brakes also. I had lucked out years ago when we bought the rear end and ended up getting all of the components including the e brake levers etc. We were able to hook all of that up and it is functional. I had purchased and installed the PB6.1 master cylinder and PV-70 proportioning valve from Mustang S
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 3/12/2015 10:46 AM |
Thanks to John Ha for the recommendation on the steering box. I ended up sending it to chockostang. It was fairly inexpensive, done and back to me in a week and looks and feels great. It is in fact show quality. The people there are a pleasure to work with and talk to. Thanks again for that.
MS, the MC and distribution block i got from you worked great. We cut and flaired all the brake lines ourselves. Only had one leak problem. It was a combination of the 80 dollar flare tool from napa not being precisely true, and me not trying to get an extra quarter turn on the fitting.
Brakes are bled and hold strong, cant turn them by hand, even with a breaker bar. We also got the rear versailles parking brake hooked up completely and functioning perfectly (cant understand why so many people complain about it) Mind you, we had all the parts from the donor car.
Thanks guys for the assistance.
Garage Points » One garage Point to MS » 2/05/2015 6:10 PM |
Thanks for the stock 65 MC pushrod. Much appreciated.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 2/03/2015 1:12 PM |
Alright, if this is against any forum rules, just delete the post. I dont want to step on anyones toes, just easier for me to post this link. You may have to register though, cant quite remember. Thanks, and I'll be in touch.
Keep in mind, this is the project of a couple of humble country boys in the woods of PA. I think we're doing fine so far.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 2/03/2015 12:33 PM |
Thanks for the quick response gentlemen. Steve, as far as the lower ball joints, we used the 65 mustang lower control arm/ball joint. It bolted right up without issue. We were under the impression that this did not need to be changed out when making the granada swap. (we also did the shelby drop with the upper control arm)
We havent hooked the tie rod ends( and the remainder of the steering) up yet. I believe what we currently have are the granada tie rod ends. We were going to move to steering next (im buying a flaming river box/shaft etc.). Am I missing something here with the set up the way it is now?
Im going to discuss the information with the Dad after work today and will get back to you (Steve) with some info about getting some parts ordered.
Thanks again, the excitement level is increasing with every new change to the car. We were just talking the other day that we thought it wouldnt have come this far.I have a bunch of pics of the progress so far, but I had uploaded them to another website forum (I bought a couple fiberglass parts from). I dont want to put their name in here unless Im authorized to do so, if you guys were curious about the car and wanted to see sme pictures. Let me know and I can put a link in a reply. I dont want to take business away from Steve(although I dont think they sell the same type of stuff), but it would take forever for me to upload the pics to these forums with the connection we have at home.
FYI Ford, Classic Mustang Tech Discussion » Brake components » 2/03/2015 7:49 AM |
First off, great site. I dont want this to turn into a novel, but Ive had a 65 fastback since I was 16. It was a father/son project, merely a rusted shell. Fast foward another 17/18 years and Im finally able to put some serious time, effort and money into getting this thing done with my dad. We basically have a car again after more or less replacing everything on the car with the exception of the roof. We're on the brakes. We rebuilt a versailles 9" rear with discs in the back and we did the granada disc swap up front. Both have since been installed along with new suspension. So, heres where we're at. We're sticking with manual brakes, what components do we need to complete the set up? I know I need a master cylinder, which I see steve sells on his ebay site, also a distribution block. Do we need a proportioning valve? if so where does it get plumbed in? After buying the rubber lines up front, they are american standard, however, the versailles lines appear to be metric. Is this accurate? If so, what methods have worked to make the transition?
I apologize for the novice questions, but I figured I would get a straight answer here as apposed to misinformation randomly searching internet sites. Thanks ahead of time. If someone could type out a parts list, I can order the items from steves ebay store asap. I would really appreciate any assistance.
-Mike
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