Cab4word67 wrote:

Ok we mite not be _?? but at 25 we have had some narrly Ice and my dauther lost her power when the tree came down due to Ice. I went over and put a 6KW gen in so she could have heat and refer, plus a couple lights and phone charger. Power company said first you got to get a lin. electrician to verifie the stub coming out of her roof is all good then when they get out there they will hook up. Problem is there were 4 miles of downed wires on my way over to here hose. They said 10-14 days easy. love the ice storms. NOT

I'm sure you know this, Chris, but for anyone who doesn't....If you run a generator through the house wiring  be very sure to open the main breaker and connect the generator downstream.  Otherwise your generator will back-feed the pole-top transformer and energize the source line at nominal voltage...1.7 to 4Kv or maybe more depending on the system.  The guys working on the lines should be testing for energized lines....butt........
This is why backup systems all have an automatic transfer switch to isolate emergency generators from the system...so linemen don't get toasted.

 

18 degrees and power went out for rolling blackout at 6:15pm.  Luckily had just lit gas fireplace at 6:12.   It WILL NOT LIGHT without electricity. The gas valve won’t open without electricity.

It's hard to beat an ol wood stove for reliability....

red351 wrote:

It's hard to beat an ol wood stove for reliability....

Yep, mine works power off, power on Gas off, no problem, as long as I got a match.

wsinsle wrote:

Bolted hope that ain't your cooking stove. About every other year you hear on the news around hear about a Carbon Monoxide death from someone using the stove for heat.

Thanks for the warning, some of those unfortunate happenings around here too. It was the cooking stove. We ran the stove about 30-40 minutes at a time then turn them off for several hours.... I don't see any difference in that and cooking. It was not run while we were sleeping. The fire place got cranked up about 4 am on Monday. On a good note, the power came back on about 11 this morning. 
 

I love a wood stove. I had one in my old house that I brought with me to my new house and it's been sitting in my basement for the last 8 years because there is nowhere in my house to instal it where the flu pipe won't run past a window.  But I refuse to get rid of it and will save it for the next house, unless the next house is in FL. LOL!

It has been a dream of mine to have a nice library with a big wood fireplace and some oversized leather chairs. I MUCH prefer wood over gas, the few times we've used our gas fireplace I feel like it dried out the air really bad. Anyway I'd sit in that room, read, have an adult beverage, and smoke cigars on days like we've been having.

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Been below Zero for about a week.  Internet froze up.  Kinda works now.

wsinsle wrote:

Bearing Bob wrote:

You've got other issues if your cooktop emits enough carbon monoxide to kill ya.

No, this happens with someone running the stove top and oven in a small apartment all day as their only source of heat. As bolted said a 1/2 hour of stove top is no different than cooking but to run everything all day can be deadly. I would not recommend  using this as your sole source of heat. I'll bet a stove top and oven uses more gas per hour than a vented gas furnace.
 

Of course it does because its on all the time.  A gas furnace burns until it reaches temperature then shuts off until called to heat again.  In theory propane and natural gas burn clean, but I wouldn't test it.  I also don't know that a hood will clear CO, because its a low lying gas.  Use the furnace for heat and the stove/oven to cook.  I think you'll live longer. 
 

Bearing Bob wrote:

You guys have exhaust vent hoods above your cooktops in your area of the world? Pretty sure restaurants run their many gas cooktops on full blast all day long.

They sure do, and some use them for heat instead of paying to run the heater.  I had sprinkler pipes burst twice in the Chinese joint in the shopping center we used to own because they wouldn't run the heat and at night it was super cold and the pipes froze.  I gave them one mulligan, but the second time they had to pay for it.  I told them, just set the heat at 45 for the night and it won't happen again.  Once it hurt their pocket they listened.

BUT, a commercial exhaust hood is TOTALLY different than a residential one.  They are designed with the idea that they will be in use for hours.  They use massive ducting and rooftop fans.  They move a ton of air.  Residential hoods by contrast move very little.  They have filters most people never clean and are packed with grease.  If the hood is part of a microwave often they are not even tied into ductwork.  They self vent, basically recycling the air through a filter because the location of the hood makes getting the exhaust to the exterior too difficult, or the run would be too long to be effective.  I'd count on a properly vented and maintained residential hood to pull the smells and haze out of my kitchen, but I wouldn't stake my life on it. 

Yeah, now the house should be able to be heated with a candle.  Old houses had no insulation, but properly heated stone and masonry I've noticed hold heat for a long time.  Wood frame and single pane windows not so much.  No blocking between floors either, so if the walls line up you can chase stuff from the basement to the attic without drilling a single hole.  The problem is that if it catches fire the fire can do the same thing. 

dave68 wrote:

Calgary Alberta Canada -
34 Celsius ........ - 30  Fahrenheit
Windy Chill - 44 Celsius............................. - 47 Fahrenheit

Its been a cold week stay warm.

Dave, good to hear from you.  I recall that you said you would not be doing another Bash until you  got retired...did that happen yet?   Maybe if we talked Day into having another one in Kalispell,  I loved that trip.  Anyway, glad you are still hanging around, our best to Maria and you.  Hope we get to see you again some day, but don't wait too long, some of us are getting pretty geezerly.

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