Bolted to Floor wrote:

TKOPerformance wrote:

Bolted to Floor wrote:

No.
What was the justification for leaving it like that and getting under it?

You can't fix stupid.  It can only be killed, so it may have worked itself out in the end...
 

I hate to think this is a can’t fix stupid moment where natural selection is the winner. Age and disease takes enough of us from the hobby, no need to add the cars to the list. The focus should be on safe methods of work.

It’s great to get together as a group and do work like this. It’s more fun when everyone goes home without injury. I ain’t a safety guy, but I am the last line of defense for my safety and no one loves me like I love me. If it ain’t safe, call it out and get it there.

I'm not a safety guy either, but I've been to OSHA training, and I'm cognizant of it on all my jobs because an injured worker isn't as productive.  It can get taken WAY overboard (wearing a body harness tied off overhead to climb a 6' ladder comes to mind), but there needs to be some, like don't run an extension cord where everyone is walking.  I don't believe in fear; I believe in respect.  I'm not afraid of the car falling on me because I respect that if it does it will probably cripple or kill me, and therefore make sure its properly supported before I get under it.  But you see stuff like this an it makes you wonder how these guys made it to adulthood, and reminds you that luck is a poor substitute for skill or planning. 
 

TKOPerformance wrote:

I'm not a safety guy either, but I've been to OSHA training, and I'm cognizant of it on all my jobs because an injured worker isn't as productive.  It can get taken WAY overboard (wearing a body harness tied off overhead to climb a 6' ladder comes to mind), but there needs to be some, like don't run an extension cord where everyone is walking.  I don't believe in fear; I believe in respect.  I'm not afraid of the car falling on me because I respect that if it does it will probably cripple or kill me, and therefore make sure its properly supported before I get under it.  But you see stuff like this an it makes you wonder how these guys made it to adulthood, and reminds you that luck is a poor substitute for skill or planning. 
 

Interesting, I remember when OSHA initiated the safety-harness requirement for working more then 6’ above the floor.  Problem was, in many cases, there wasn’t anything above to tie off the safety lanyard. 

 

6sally6 wrote:

Shirley.............the guy SAW the issue.......took the pic.......and then corrected the obvious problem.....before getting under that death trap!!
6sally6

Sadly I don't think so.  Look at the position of the lift arms in the last picture.  The pads are too far inboard to be on the frame rails.  I think the last pic was taken first, then the others after they saw the way the car they had been working under was supported. 

This thread is so awesome!
...many smart minds putting on-notice the less than incredibly-average roaches that poison our wonderful hobby. 
Keep the discussion going.

Rudi wrote:

Perhaps the vehicle jut needed to moved ahead six inches, No way to tell for sure without a picture of rear arm and pad orientation.

Possibly, but here's the thing.  You position the arms under the vehicle with the pads where they should go.  You start to lift the vehicle and immediately check to see if the pads are ACTUALLY where they are supposed to be.  If not, you drop the lift, reposition, and try again.  You should never take the tires off the ground until you're sure the pads are properly positioned.  It seems likely that lumpkin and company couldn't be bothered to bend over a second time to check where the pads were. 
 

I would not get under a car sitting like that.  I wont even walk under my lift until I walk around and check EVERY lock to be sure they are engaged.   I just completed a 42 year career of work in construction and still have all my fingers!  It only takes a few seconds of stupidity like that to end someones life or drastically alter it!  I am not ate up with safety but I'd like to think I have above average common sense.

Going back to a comment from earlier about safety harnesses, I remember working in a factory a few years ago and was working on a scissor lift, I was working about 8 feet above ground and was told I had to wear a tethered harness anytime I was on the lift.  I complied and put the harness on and attached the tether.  Out of curiosity I decided to measure the tether.  According to my calculations the tether would stop my fall approx 6" below ground level!

Not sure who that lift belongs to but the owner is responsible for any one who uses it.

Hey hold up! How is this my fault! always blame the young guy!!!! for EVERYTHING!! :D
This one was not on me...

 

josh-kebob wrote:

Gaba wrote:

Hey hold up! How is this my fault! always blame the young guy!!!! for EVERYTHING!! :D
This one was not on me...

 

No but, that car could have been on you!

You sir just won the internet  
 

I tend to push the envelop and I wouldn't be working under tht car and especially puuling a trans.

There was that time that I ran over myself with my own Bronco. 

terry wrote:

I would not get under a car sitting like that.  I wont even walk under my lift until I walk around and check EVERY lock to be sure they are engaged.  

I'm with you, Terry.  Love my four-post lift and really love the hydraulic rail jack , Butt (TS& T) I pucker up every time I lift a car and I NEVER go under it until I have visually checked that ALL FOUR locks have moved to the locked position.  Like others I've been playing with cars and running power tools for over sixty years and so far, other that a little hide now and then, I still have all my parts.  Now I'm teaching myself to run a mill and it scares the hell out of me.

BB1
 

I guess this pic answers the question.  No worries. Gaba has that pipe atop the wheeled floor jack just in case.