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I found a set of US Rambler 111 wheels that are for a 65/66 mustang. They are a cast wheel so I’m not sure if they can be welded or not. I have reached out to a company that dies this work to see if they can do them or not. Anyone have experience with this?
Since I have the DSE mini tubs and moved my leafs inboard 3 inches on each side I can potentially fit a 315. To be safe I will just go with a 305. Buying the wheels mentioned and having the rears widened would still be half the cost of ordering new custom rims.
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About ten years ago I had a set of Torque Thrust "D" wheels widened by Weldcraft Wheels in Michigan. The TTDs are cast wheels. I had them widened by one inch to the inside. They came out great. I have had zero problems. My experience is that the "one inch" widening comes out slightly less when finished - more like 15/16" than a full inch. Be sure to inquire with the vendor so you know what to expect.
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Tons of Lightning guys use Weldcraft to widen the stock truck rims with great results. Just keep in mind that you'll be adding to your backspace as the width comes on the backside.
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In addition to Weldcraft, try contacting "Wheel Smith" (
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Raymond_B wrote:
Tons of Lightning guys use Weldcraft to widen the stock truck rims with great results. Just keep in mind that you'll be adding to your backspace as the width comes on the backside.
Right now I have roughly 13.25 inches from my roll lip to the inside of the inner tub. I will need 6 plus inches to fit a 10 inch wide rim and up. So widening these wheels are a good option for me for a few reasons. One it’s way cheaper than custom ordering rims. I like the style of the U111 rim and I could use them as rollers for now until I get the rest of the funds to widen them. Also with mounting the rears with tires I can get a much better idea of how much wider I can go. I did read online where someone mentioned the wheels can not be widened by more than 2 inches. Not sure how true it is. Weld craft is who I reached out to.
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The place I used to use (no longer there) always required purchasing or supplying a donor wheel so they could cut the widening ring out of the donor.
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MS wrote:
The place I used to use (no longer there) always required purchasing or supplying a donor wheel so they could cut the widening ring out of the donor.
Well that would have a negative effect on this idea if that’s needed.
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From my recent research they won't weld on the cast wheels, only on the forged wheels.
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I just got a reply back from them. $275 for 1-2 inch increase. $300 for 2.5-3 inches.
As for welding cast rims I guess it has to due with what material they are cast with. They are not all the same material. I gave them the model number/manufacture of the rims so I would hope they know. Lol
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Wonder if...........they do a dye penetrant test on the Alum. welds?!(for porousity) -5 spelling
6s6
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6sally6 wrote:
Wonder if...........they do a dye penetrant test on the Alum. welds?!(for porousity) -5 spelling
6s6
They use to zyglo my welds/
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I did not ask them what they use or how they perform the work. They are the most recommended company mentioned when I search for this type of work. I was wondering if they clean and re apply a clear coat on the inside of the rim where the work will be performed.
I'm going to send an offer on the wheels today and see how cheap I can get them for.
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RTM wrote:
I did not ask them what they use or how they perform the work. They are the most recommended company mentioned when I search for this type of work. I was wondering if they clean and re apply a clear coat on the inside of the rim where the work will be performed.
I'm going to send an offer on the wheels today and see how cheap I can get them for.
They won't apply any new paint or clear coat. Here's some pictures of Lightning wheels widened 3"
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I like the idea of using another wheel so there is only one seam. But the banding method has been used forever without any issues. Von Dutch used to get the wheel lips from Budnik when he was in business. Wish I had a lathe with a ten inch swing too play with.
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MS wrote:
The place I used to use (no longer there) always required purchasing or supplying a donor wheel so they could cut the widening ring out of the donor.
Was that Wheels America in Dallas? They did the wheel narrowing on my 2004 Bullitt wheels.
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Raymond_B wrote:
RTM wrote:
I did not ask them what they use or how they perform the work. They are the most recommended company mentioned when I search for this type of work. I was wondering if they clean and re apply a clear coat on the inside of the rim where the work will be performed.
I'm going to send an offer on the wheels today and see how cheap I can get them for.They won't apply any new paint or clear coat. Here's some pictures of Lightning wheels widened 3"
No big deal. I may change the center color of the wheel to match the stripes. But that's a long ways down the road. I first have to see if the seller will accept my offer. They haven't gotten back to me yet.
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I’m curious as to what the weld seam on the inside looks.
Is the seam welded and machined?
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Rudi wrote:
I’m curious as to what the weld seam on the inside looks.
Is the seam welded and machined?
From the above link it looks to be welded inside and outside.
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RTM wrote:
Rudi wrote:
I’m curious as to what the weld seam on the inside looks.
Is the seam welded and machined?From the above link it looks to be welded inside and outside.
Prolly over kill to weld inside & out butt (no pun!)....
I'm sure it makes the customer feel a little more warm & fuzzy in his nether regions!
6s6
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Eric Vaughn was the king, until he retired in his 70s. Can't believe he didn't train an apprentice to take over for him.
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That looks like some killer work. Sadly the wheels I was looking at sold. The seller never replied to my offer. they never replied to my first question I had sent as well. Maybe they had someone local interested in them and pursued that route. Not that I wasn't local, less than two hours away but I couldn't get there until the weekend which I had mentioned to the seller.
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BILLY WALTON from GEORGIA wrote:
6sally6 wrote:
Wonder if...........they do a dye penetrant test on the Alum. welds?!(for porousity) -5 spelling
6s6They use to zyglo my welds/
I first learned that word reading Smokey Yunick's book! Most guys don't know what it is anymore, even at machine shops. I may have learned some other words in that book I can't type here...
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Bearing Bob wrote:
Eric Vaughn was the king, until he retired in his 70s. Can't believe he didn't train an apprentice to take over for him.
Wow. Haven't heard Eric's name for a while. Back in '74 he had his shop in Pete & Jake's building and he widened a couple of VW wheels for me an then built the driveshaft for my Model A Speedster. He was also the king of louvers back then...made his own dies as I recall.
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Bullet Bob knows everyone.
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Bearing Bob wrote:
Bullet Bob knows everyone.
Not really. There's a huge difference between "met 'em" or "encountered 'em" and "Know 'em" But I do recall that Eric was fairly well respected even back then. And he seemed to be a decent guy.
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