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8/26/2022 9:06 AM  #1


Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

It’s out of a 98 V6.  Able to find a couple of low mile transmissions around here for $250 each.  There generally less abused than the 5.0 T5.  So I bought a couple. Pretty straight forward.  Had a issue with no end play on input shaft.  I double up the thrush washers and only needed one.  That caused the problem.  Quite a few YouTube videos on how to do it.  I bought the 5.0 input shaft on Ebay.






 

8/26/2022 9:08 AM  #2


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

You can use 94 to 98 V6 t5.  It has the mechanical speedometer option.  You can use 99 to 10 V6 also but you need to figure out some different for speedometer sensor.  The tail housing is longer so you have to modify the cross member mount and reverse it to fit cross member properly.

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8/26/2022 9:41 AM  #3


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

So, is the tail different than 5.0 model as well?  Does that require even shorter driveshaft?  Once you get it installed, how about a list of everything you had to do, with some pics?  Great mod


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8/26/2022 12:01 PM  #4


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

MS wrote:

So, is the tail different than 5.0 model as well? Does that require even shorter driveshaft? Once you get it installed, how about a list of everything you had to do, with some pics? Great mod

On the 94 to 98 V6 T5 the only difference is the longer input shaft.   It would be the same as 94-95 HO T5 that have the longer Input shaft.   The tail shaft is the same.  It would require the same driveshaft modification a normal foxbody t5. The 99 to 04 the input shaft has to be changed like the 94 to 98 to a foxbody 5.0 input shaft.   There tail housing is different but can be modified with reversing and modifying the transmission mount.   It has a sensored speedometer drive. So it doesn't use a gear like 94 to 98 t5 transmissions.  So you have to use a GPS signal or something like that to track your speed.      
 

Last edited by Steve69 (8/26/2022 12:02 PM)

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8/26/2022 9:44 PM  #5


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

Does the shifter stay in the same location?
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8/27/2022 6:37 AM  #6


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

I would advise setting the endplay to preload the bearings about 0.001-0.003".  Same for the countershaft.  This makes the trans more durable and seems to have no negative consequences.  This is what all the T5 gurus do. 

Run good oil too, like Amsoil ATF.
 

 

8/28/2022 5:39 AM  #7


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

Why can’t one just use the V8 bell housing from a 94/95 model 302?  I’m boxing one up today that I just sold.

 

8/28/2022 6:16 AM  #8


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

RTM wrote:

Why can’t one just use the V8 bell housing from a 94/95 model 302? I’m boxing one up today that I just sold.

The '94-'95 trans has a longer input shaft, and thus the bellhousing in deeper.  A Fox setup puts the shifter in the hole that already exists.  The '94-'95 trans and bellhousing would move the shifter rearward to where you'd need to cut the tunnel.  That I believe is the primary reason people tend to stick to the Fox era stuff. 

 

8/28/2022 4:53 PM  #9


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

TKOPerformance wrote:

RTM wrote:

Why can’t one just use the V8 bell housing from a 94/95 model 302? I’m boxing one up today that I just sold.

The '94-'95 trans has a longer input shaft, and thus the bellhousing in deeper.  A Fox setup puts the shifter in the hole that already exists.  The '94-'95 trans and bellhousing would move the shifter rearward to where you'd need to cut the tunnel.  That I believe is the primary reason people tend to stick to the Fox era stuff. 

 
That’s not my experience.  My old 65 fastback had a 94-95 T5 and the shifter was still a tad forward in the shifter hole.  I did have the early style engine mounts.  I currently have the same 94/95 T5 in my 66 coupe project.    No issues.

 

8/28/2022 5:21 PM  #10


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

Not that it should matter, but in my '67 the Fox setup lined up perfectly with the existing hole.  I made the hole bigger anyway, because I run a Pro 5.0 shifter and it wouldn't clear, plus I wanted to be able to remove the shifter with the trans in the car if I ever needed to (I did).  But that's the thing about these old cars: what works for one person often seems not to for someone else. 

 

8/29/2022 7:49 AM  #11


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

6sally6 wrote:

Does the shifter stay in the same location?
6sal6

  If you change the input shaft it stays in the same location as a foxbody 5.0.  If you use the 94-95 or the 98 V6 bellhousing its 5/8 longer.  So the shifter is back 5/8.  I thought about using the V6 bellhousing and dealing with it back 5/8".  You have to run the 164 tooth flywheel that I currently have but you you can only run a 10" or 11" clutch.  There are some 10.5" 164 tooth flywheels but there pricey.  I believe you could run a clutch cable with that V6 bellhousing also. The cable entry does sit lower than the 5.0 foxbody bellhousing. 
 

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8/29/2022 8:10 AM  #12


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

Steve69 wrote:

6sally6 wrote:

Does the shifter stay in the same location?
6sal6

  If you change the input shaft it stays in the same location as a foxbody 5.0.  If you use the 94-95 or the 98 V6 bellhousing its 5/8 longer.  So the shifter is back 5/8.  I thought about using the V6 bellhousing and dealing with it back 5/8".  You have to run the 164 tooth flywheel that I currently have but you you can only run a 10" or 11" clutch.  There are some 10.5" 164 tooth flywheels but there pricey.  I believe you could run a clutch cable with that V6 bellhousing also. The cable entry does sit lower than the 5.0 foxbody bellhousing. 
 

Cable clutch becomes a problem using the V6 bellhousing IF the car has factory power steering.  The steering ram is competing for the space where the cable enters the bellhousing.

The foxbody v8 bellhousing is the best choice.


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8/29/2022 9:42 AM  #13


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

I installed a truck V6 4X4 manual transmission in my old early bronco.  I had to drill the bell housing mounting holes open to accept the correct bolts. The V6 used a smaller ID than what our 302 motors use.

 

8/30/2022 7:18 AM  #14


Re: Installed a new 5.0 input shaft on a V6 T5

I got a really good deal on a 95 T-5 and Bell. Car had low miles, I think he said he upgraded to a 6 speed. The shifter sits a little behind center but not enough to cause problems. I think the cable clutch is clocked different than a Fox but I was able to make it work.


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