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8/13/2023 4:16 PM  #1


Traction limited !????


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8/13/2023 10:10 PM  #2


Re: Traction limited !????

Just curious Sal, what search words do you use to find these cars?  LSD car build or sumpin similar?


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

8/14/2023 5:54 AM  #3


Re: Traction limited !????

Those look like Allison V1710 aircraft engines.  Used in the P40, P38, and early P51s (A variant).  They were used extensively in unlimited hydroplane racing.  Some guys tried to make them work in drag racing, but they don't accelerate fast enough to make a good drag race engine.  In the '50s they were available as surplus and apparently cheap.  Not so much today.  In the late '90s my uncle was gong to put one in a replica wood speed boat.  The project was never finished, but I got to know that engine pretty well.  It was a solid, reliable engine that never got the glory of the Merlin due mostly to politics and policy which led to its replacement instead of evolution. 

 

8/14/2023 11:17 AM  #4


Re: Traction limited !????

Real ???...or not Could jew imagine the rackitt that puppy would make !?!
6s6


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8/14/2023 2:59 PM  #5


Re: Traction limited !????

6sally6 wrote:

Real ???...or not Could jew imagine the rackitt that puppy would make !?!
6s6

It looks like there are 6 engines and each one has 24 exhaust ports, so that's 144 pipes!  Even 8 slicks is a joke if they are all hooked up to the wheels.  Each engine makes around 1,000HP (there were versions that made almost 3,000) and has an integral single stage supercharger.  They don't turn a lot of RPM, because the prop was run off a gear train.  A crack machinist made an adapter plate on the one my uncle had that allowed a two speed Lenco to be connected to it instead of the prop gear housing.  The idea was it would have a port gear and an open water gear.  Kind of bummed it never got finished, but on the other hand we'd probably all be dead...

 

8/14/2023 6:20 PM  #6


Re: Traction limited !????

Yes, its real.   There are only 4 Allison engines.  It was named quad Al  and its passed around to a few different owners.  One of those owners was Dan Guffey, who collects "things"  and one of his interests is old, unique drag equipment.  Go look at the guys webpage.   What has passed through his ownership.  Just wow.

Anyways, we could all challenge Quad Al  to a drag race because while it ran as a novelty, it was never hooked to a drive train and therefore cannot move under its own.power.   Just imagine if they had finished that all wheel drive beast, though.

Google is still good for things.


If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
 

8/15/2023 5:13 AM  #7


Re: Traction limited !????

Ah, I see it now, there are 4, not 6.  They are angled so the header tubes in the middle are vertical. 

Heh, funny that it doesn't actually work, but not terribly surprising. 
 

 

8/15/2023 11:12 AM  #8


Re: Traction limited !????

Greg B wrote:

One of those owners was Dan Guffey, who collects "things"  and one of his interests is old, unique drag equipment.



Go look at the guys webpage.
 

Greg...................Ya gotta give us more than a name!
6sal6




I found everything from Child molester to businessman when looking 'em up on "Google" ..









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8/16/2023 2:37 PM  #9


Re: Traction limited !????

I would like to hear that thing run!

 

8/17/2023 10:34 AM  #10


Re: Traction limited !????

6sally6 wrote:

Greg B wrote:

One of those owners was Dan Guffey, who collects "things"  and one of his interests is old, unique drag equipment.



Go look at the guys webpage.
 

Greg...................Ya gotta give us more than a name!
6sal6




I found everything from Child molester to businessman when looking 'em up on "Google" ..


https://www.guffeystuff.com/

The above picture is actually off his website. 






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If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
 

8/17/2023 1:17 PM  #11


Re: Traction limited !????

Looks like Guffrey's favorite noun is stuff.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

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