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My old coworker and great friend in Ohio called me last night and his good friend has what he claims is a 351C Boss engine built by a ford employee(engineer?) that was stuffed it into a jaguar in the mid 70’s. My coworkers friend bought the jaguar to restore and has had this engine sitting ever since. He put the correct jaguar engine back in it. He claims to have paperwork on it and that it was a 500hp from the mid 70’s. He also said he doesn’t want to scrap it but knows it is worth something. After talking to him last night, it sounds like he didn’t know much about ford engines.
He’s going to get pictures of the engine and paperwork. I told him to take his time. The way he described the story on the history of the engine was much better than how I’ve described it. Always enjoy the feeling of a possible cool find.
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The BOSS 351 was a '71 model year only engine I believe. Not sure if they also sold them through Ford's parts counter. I'm sure there were at least some service replacement engines and parts built, but it was a fairly rare engine in a body style that still is not terribly popular. Some view these things as a performance bargain. Not sure I agree given the cost of modern parts vs. their performance potential. 30-40 years ago things were different.
A buddy of mine built one of these as a stroker for a guy 20 years ago. He said it made great power. I think it went out to 393 cubes. He put a roller cam and rockers in it too.
To identify it: block casting number would be D0E-L (same as a 351 C, BUT is machined for 4 bolt mains, and these do not have screw in core plugs like a BOSS302)). Head casting number is D1AE-GA Factory intake casting number is D1ZX-DA. These engines had unique rods, crank, pistons (domed), and balancer (2" thick vs. 1" for regular 351C).
As far as what its worth, well, its worth the most to a guy with a BOSS351 that needs an engine, particularly the guy that has the car it came out of (if that still even exists). To a regular performance guy its probably worth a little more than a typical 351C because you can say its a BOSS, but maybe not. At its core its a 4V 351C with some unique parts. They were solid lifter engines stock, but a modern hydraulic roller cam would run circles around that outdated setup. The value in these things seems to be mostly in the unique parts (intake distributor, carb, etc.). If that stuff isn't included or was replaced with generic performance parts I'd say its worth at most a couple grand. The thing a lot of folks don't understand is that rare and valuable are not synonymous. Its definitely rare, but the 351C market on its own is small (at least in the States, I hear the Ausies love the Clevelands). To me its about as interesting a shop conversation piece as the 390 I've had under a workbench since college, and you see how far I got on building that and dropping it in my '67.
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That’s exactly what I told the owner of the engine, the carburetor and so on could make or break its value. That’s all the hard stuff to find.
Even though I told him to take his time I really want to know if it really is a Boss engine. I also don’t want him to think I’m over excited about it either. Plus it’s not like I can just drive down the road to get it. It’s a 42 hour road trip up and back. I do have vacation time at the end of October.
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This kid was telling me their engine is "based" on a Cleveland. Most everything on it is after market
BUTT-MAN does that puppy roll !!!
It woiuld look good wedged into your show-stopper.....
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Last edited by 6sally6 (8/22/2024 1:50 PM)
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Thinking if it’s the real deal then I’ll put it in the 70 fastback we have waiting to be restored. The 70 fastback will be our son’s car.
Anyone follow dragboss garage? He’s a big time Cleveland guy. He has some really cool stuff with some great history behind it all.
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