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2/15/2025 2:45 PM  #26


Re: Exhaust system attempt!!!

Perhaps less my age and more about my Pop.  He never had a car with a flat head engine after I was born.  (By the way, my dad was born in 1911.  And he was 50 when I was born.)  Practically all of the flat heads I have ever owned and worked on were made by Briggs and Stratton.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

2/15/2025 6:06 PM  #27


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I've always wanted to build a flat head motor.  Not sure why but I think they are pretty cool engines.

Happy to say today was a good day.   After a lot of staring at the exhaust project and trying to come up with a plan, it paid off.    I got the complex bends all done and with no mistakes.  Just need mufflers to finish it up. 








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2/15/2025 6:13 PM  #28


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See? You can do it Bobby! Looks real nice.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/15/2025 6:38 PM  #29


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rpm wrote:

See? You can do it Bobby! Looks real nice.

 
Thanks.  I think I got a little lucky.  Pretty sure I have more time in staring at it than actual work.   lol

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2/15/2025 6:51 PM  #30


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Are you including any sort of crossover in your dual system?


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

2/15/2025 9:46 PM  #31


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RTM wrote:

rpm wrote:

See? You can do it Bobby! Looks real nice.

 
Thanks.  I think I got a little lucky.  Pretty sure I have more time in staring at it than actual work.   lol

 
Looking at it before attempting any project is the most important step.


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/16/2025 4:36 AM  #32


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Rufus68 wrote:

Are you including any sort of crossover in your dual system?

 
No I'm not adding any crossover.

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2/16/2025 7:49 AM  #33


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RTM wrote:

Rufus68 wrote:

Are you including any sort of crossover in your dual system?

 
No I'm not adding any crossover.

I was just curious.  I have only changed the mufflers in the exhaust system that was on my mustang when I bought it in 2013.  It does not include a crossover either.  I only asked because of how often it is recommended to include a crossover.


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

2/16/2025 8:04 AM  #34


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Rufus68 wrote:

RTM wrote:

Rufus68 wrote:

Are you including any sort of crossover in your dual system?

 
No I'm not adding any crossover.

I was just curious.  I have only changed the mufflers in the exhaust system that was on my mustang when I bought it in 2013.  It does not include a crossover either.  I only asked because of how often it is recommended to include a crossover.

 
An X pipe will change the sound greatly and be a little more raspy sounding.   To me the X pipe kills the old school rumble.  The H pipe doesn't kill the rumble as much as an X pipe but still affects it.  With each side on its own you get more of that rumble which is what I'm after.  Plus I don't think I would ever notice the difference in performance.   I'm already at a 500-550hp set up. 

I'm some of my previous posts I've said a few times I'm all about big sounding cams, even on a street driven mustang.

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2/16/2025 8:05 AM  #35


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I noticed the bucket in your picture, so I thought I would tell a funny story that happened to me last month.   

The Midwest was hit with a pretty hard snow/ice storm.   I opened a bag of ice melt to put on the driveway, and I ripped the bag a little too much.  Couldn't really move it without dumping it and wasting it.   I got the bright idea to put it in a five gallon bucket.   I wound up needing to go get a new bucket, so it sat for a few days.  I finally went to town, but I was having a bad leg day so I didn't feel like walking.  Anyways, I knew my HF store has them right by the door.  I go in buy a bucket, come home, put the ice melt in it, avoided that mess.

Next morning I look out the window and someone threw an empty Home Depot bucket in my yard...
I took it as a message!


If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
 

2/16/2025 8:12 AM  #36


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I put the hf bucket inside the home Depot bucket!


If multiple things can go wrong, the one that will go wrong will be the one that causes the most damage.
 

2/16/2025 11:16 AM  #37


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Greg B wrote:



I put the hf bucket inside the home Depot bucket!

 
Now that's funny.

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2/16/2025 11:49 AM  #38


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Crossover pipe

Best reason to install one is it makes the system rigid, so it cannot rock side to side.  This makes header gaskets last a whole lot longer because they are not being constantly used as a hinge point as the exhaust pipes rock back and forth.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

2/16/2025 2:43 PM  #39


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MS wrote:

Crossover pipe

Best reason to install one is it makes the system rigid, so it cannot rock side to side. This makes header gaskets last a whole lot longer because they are not being constantly used as a hinge point as the exhaust pipes rock back and forth.

First time I've heard that benefit.  Makes sense.
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

2/16/2025 3:13 PM  #40


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MS wrote:

Crossover pipe

Best reason to install one is it makes the system rigid, so it cannot rock side to side. This makes header gaskets last a whole lot longer because they are not being constantly used as a hinge point as the exhaust pipes rock back and forth.

Somewhere along the line a bracket was added to the production 200's that attached to the engine block and the downpipe, just below the junction between the manifold and the downpipe.  It forced the downpipe to move with the engine so there was very little movement required at the donut gasket between the manifold and the downpipe.  When I was working up the exhaust for the 250 I found that the bracket used on the 200 didn't fit properly (well, duh) and so had to fabricate one that did work.


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2/16/2025 6:32 PM  #41


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In all my years of adding dual exhaust with no crossover, I've never had any sort of gasket issue.   With my engine mounts I highly doubt I'll have any where near the movement of the stock mounts and again if I did have stock mounts, non of my older builds ever needed the header gaskets replaced.  I even had a 460 in a 70 fastback pushing over 500 hp and never had to replace the header gaskets.   Not saying it isn't a valid reason, I just haven't seen a non crossover setup need the header gaskets replaced.  My feeling is if you have the proper hangers that allow for movement then there is no hinge point.

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2/17/2025 7:07 AM  #42


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It was a HUGE issue on my K5.  Now, in fairness that system probably didn't really have enough hangers, but my thoughts are why take the risk?  A crossover is stupid easy to add, and properly located isn't in the way of anything.  Typically I design a system now so I can remove the H or X pipe without having to tough the system from there back, which makes pulling the trans a lot easier.

The only upside I ever noticed to not running one was that it makes the car sound like its got more cam than it does. 

 

2/17/2025 11:25 AM  #43


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Spatial problems (visualizing angles and turns before you make them) are hard for most people.
Other guys seem to pick up on it easily. It's a real talent fer sure ! Looks like you hit a home run though. How many pieces did you ruin before you 'got-it-right'?
6sal6


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2/17/2025 11:54 AM  #44


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Back in High school there was no such thing as X or H exhausts. It made it a lot easier to find a blown head gasket that way.


Money can't buy happiness. Butt it can buy Car Parts... and that is pretty much the same thing.67 FastBack
 

2/23/2025 6:14 PM  #45


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Almost done.  Need hangers. 


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2/23/2025 6:38 PM  #46


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HEY........Ya forgot the EXHAUST DUMPS/cut-outs !!
VERY nice work for laying flat-of-your-back !!! 
6sally6


Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
 

2/24/2025 9:14 AM  #47


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6sally6 wrote:

HEY........Ya forgot the EXHAUST DUMPS/cut-outs !!
VERY nice work for laying flat-of-your-back !!! 
6sally6

 
I think these mufflers will be loud enough and even maybe to loud.

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2/24/2025 11:52 AM  #48


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Which mufflers did you end up buying?


Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
 

2/24/2025 4:30 PM  #49


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Mufflers??? I see something that resembles a wide spot in the pipe!!! 


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

2/27/2025 4:56 AM  #50


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rpm wrote:

Which mufflers did you end up buying?

 
Dynomax race bullets.  It was one of the very first mufflers I liked.    I've listened to so many and kept going back and forth on what I wanted.  Hope they sound like what I want.   

I think I can attach the hangers to the cross brace where the rear shocks would normally be.   It's thicker metal so it should be better than the floor where I would need to reinforce it.

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