RTM wrote:

I never even thought to see if I needed a permit. Lol

Oh, dollar to doughnuts it does.  I'm not saying anything if you don't 
 

This is why I don't live in a city!
It's ridiculous to need a permit (that you have to pay for) to change a water heater (that you paid for) in your house (that your paid for and that you pay property taxes on every year)!

"If it pleases the Crown, may I please change my water heater, in my own home, at my own expense, and by my own efforts?  THANK YOU YOUR MAJESTY!  Here is some gold to pay my tribute to the Crown!" 

Our forefathers went to war over less.  (I'm not saying we should go to war... I'm just pointing out how our forefathers would "roll over in their graves" over such nonsense !)

Last edited by Michael H. (11/05/2025 10:06 AM)

Its not just cities.  Around here its a web of jurisdictions.  There are cities, which only apply to buildings within the city limits, then there are counties (basically anything not in city limits).  In New Castle County alone there are the cities of Newark, Wilmington, New Castle (yep there's a city in addition to the county), Elsmere, and Middletown.  Each one is a different license if your a contractor (which I am), and the county and Newark require bonds.  PA is even worse because its done by township.  Near West Chester alone there are 5 townships within about a 10 miles radius.  Each one require a separate license, each one has its own code enforcement personnel.  

Several years ago, my city was considering having homeowners pay for the city to pick up broken appliances at homeowner’s residences. Some cooler heads in the city prevailed stated that if the city were to do that, they’ll find these discarded appliances dumped on the side of roads somewhere and have to pick them up anyway.  So now one can call and the city will pick up (for free) on a certain day of each week.
Most delivery trucks of the new appliances will take the failed appliance with them.  I’m sure we’re paying extra for that also.  
 

Added a couple of outlets and shelve to the garage.  I only had two outlets in the garage prior to adding these along the wall.   Time to clean the garage again.  Been busy converting my son's 1985 F350 truck to a 4x4.   Crap everywhere.  Lol

TKOPerformance wrote:

I'm a fan of hard wired plug molding for workbenches.  I have a section in my garage at the house and my detached shop.  Very useful and no need to constantly plug and unplug tools when fabricating.  

 
If I had a permanent bench I would do that.

I've got a 12 foot shelf, oops I meant work bench in my garage, and a six foot bench in my shop. Along with a fold up bench and a work table in the shop. The six foot mounted bench was an afterthought so I did not have any electrical outlets on the wall above the bench. Putting the outlet strip on the front edge of the bench was a great addition, as the cords don't cross your work area.

TKOPerformance wrote:

RTM wrote:

TKOPerformance wrote:

I'm a fan of hard wired plug molding for workbenches.  I have a section in my garage at the house and my detached shop.  Very useful and no need to constantly plug and unplug tools when fabricating.  

 
If I had a permanent bench I would do that.

You could always mount it to the bench with a whip that has a plug on it.  
 

 
What does that mean?

rpm – “I've got a 12-foot shelf, oops I meant work bench in my garage …”.  This made me laugh; many years ago when I raced, we made a work bench from 12’ long scaffolding planks.  I moved the bench to my home garage and cut it down to 8’ long.  We moved to another house, and I cut it down to 4’ long.
In each instance, ended up with about 2’ of work space!

BobE wrote:

rpm – “I've got a 12-foot shelf, oops I meant work bench in my garage …”.  This made me laugh; many years ago when I raced, we made a work bench from 12’ long scaffolding planks.  I moved the bench to my home garage and cut it down to 8’ long.  We moved to another house, and I cut it down to 4’ long.
In each instance, ended up with about 2’ of work space!

 
Many a time I've had a usable two foot square of work area on the 12 foot workbench. Probably my favorite work bench is the 2x3' fold up bench in my shop. My BroPaul has an 8 foot fold up bench in his garage. The key to is it has to be cleaned up at the end of the day so he can park one of his three Mustangs in there. My fold up bench is a repurposed welding fixture, and heavy. Quarter inch diamond plate, which weighs 92 pounds.

6sally6 wrote:

rpm wrote:

BobE wrote:

rpm – “I've got a 12-foot shelf, oops I meant work bench in my garage …”.  This made me laugh; many years ago when I raced, we made a work bench from 12’ long scaffolding planks.  I moved the bench to my home garage and cut it down to 8’ long.  We moved to another house, and I cut it down to 4’ long.
In each instance, ended up with about 2’ of work space!

 
Many a time I've had a usable two foot square of work area on the 12 foot workbench. Probably my favorite work bench is the 2x3' fold up bench in my shop. My BroPaul has an 8 foot fold up bench in his garage. The key to is it has to be cleaned up at the end of the day so he can park one of his three Mustangs in there.

My fold up bench is a repurposed welding fixture, and heavy. Quarter inch diamond plate, which weighs 92 pounds.

...On caster wheels....(PLEASE TELL US YOU HAVE WHEELS ON IT !)
6SAL6
 

Wheels on the fold up bench? It is mounted to the wall, and hinges down. I'm not sure where the wheels would go.