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He had made a prototype of a BULLET-PROOF turn signal switch for 65-66-67-ish Mustangs.
A redesign of the factory piece butt.......made to last even longer than the NOS switches that might be available.
(I bought a NOS piece years ago and paid a premium for it BUTT...that was the end of replacing the tired old Chineseium copy that 'might' last a year!)
Anywho....do any of y'all have his prototype or any info about it?
He was really pumped about it.... and even considered a patent or some-such because it
was sooo promising !
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I ended buying out what was left of the garage stuff, old Mustang parts, and the machine shop from Bob's family. I still haven't found room for it all, but in all the boxes I haven't found any turn signal switches - original or experimental. If I happen to find any TS parts mixed in with some other boxes, I'll let you know.
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I "think" I remember Bullet saying he hit a snag in the project. I also thought Bullet said Adrian was doing the 3D printing, but Renee said it was Jim Tomsic, who lives on Pueblo. If needed I'm sure their phone numbers could be obtained.
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The turn signal components were identified and given to Renee.
I hope Jim completes the project or at least the “plain jane” version for turn signals…KISS.
Bullet had some great ideas and was getting closer to what he envisioned as the perfect modification for a 65/66 steering column.
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I've met Jim. He has 2 very nice 69 camaros. The blue one is the first car he owned. Nice guy.
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Shame he wasn't able to complete it. Hope someone can complete it in his name.
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Bullet Bob and I were talking over some ideas about this switch idea. He called me when he heard I was thinking about working on something similar because I was tired of the BS aftermarket stuff failing within minutes of installation. He was supposed to show me his idea next time around. Yup. Thats gonna be awhile longer I think. We ended up talking about this for several hours one night.
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I also had some input into the design. I discussed it with the guy that was helping build it at Bullet’s Celebration of Life. If anything happens with it, he will be the one to do it. I offered to help further but no contact has been initiated. Hopefully it does get completed, but I am not holding my breath.
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6sally6 wrote:
He had made a prototype of a BULLET-PROOF turn signal switch for 65-66-67-ish Mustangs.
A redesign of the factory piece butt.......made to last even longer than the NOS switches that might be available.
(I bought a NOS piece years ago and paid a premium for it BUTT...that was the end of replacing the tired old Chineseium copy that 'might' last a year!)
Anywho....do any of y'all have his prototype or any info about it?
He was really pumped about it.... and even considered a patent or some-such because it
was sooo promising !
6sally6
Sal, I remember him showing us his prototype. I am thinking it was while we were all gathered in the hotel room in McAllister, OK for Tanya's funeral. It would be a great mod cause we all know the factory ones SUCK!!
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What are the issues with the original turn signal switch?
I have the original switch from a 66 Mustang that while it feels ‘loose’, it works without any problems.
I’ve seen that using a GM style turn signal switch is considered a ‘go to’ solution, but am confused as to the problem needing to be resolved.
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BobE wrote:
What are the issues with the original turn signal switch?
I have the original switch from a 66 Mustang that while it feels ‘loose’, it works without any problems.
I’ve seen that using a GM style turn signal switch is considered a ‘go to’ solution, but am confused as to the problem needing to be resolved.
I have to agree with BobE. I had the original FoMoCo switch in mine until, after some wiring work under the dash, I stupidly didn't restrain one of the wires properly and it got pinched in the brake pedal stop and shorted to ground, killing the turn signal switch. I went through 2 reproduction switches before finally caving and paying $150 for an NOS switch, which is still working fine.
I have not had great satisfaction from aftermarket parts proclaiming to solve issues that can be solved satisfactorily using either factory stock parts or high quality reproduction parts. Some of the aftermarket products I've bought were poorly designed and failed quickly, didn't fit properly, or required modifications (many of the mods could easily have been made unnecessary by a simple change of the design). Many had significant design flaws that led me to returning them or throwing them away.
Don't mean to insult anyone but this sounds like a solution for something that isn't really a significant problem.
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John Ha I've had three aftermarket one go bad. None of them have lasted more than a couple drives. They just flat out suck.
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I just got used to manual cancellation. Sad. 😔
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Muzz, I should have stuck with my manual cancellation (25+ years) and original switch assembly.
The bright idea of replacing the cam happened only a few years after the second arm broke due to age and cold weather.
It was second nature to me to self cancel…lesson learned.
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On the topic of poor-quality parts; I recently bought two Dorman 0.25-inch drain cocks # 61106 from Amazon. While opening and closing both prior to installation, the handle spun on the shaft when going to the close, or open, position without a lot of force.
Checking past reviews on Amazon, I found this wasn’t an unusual occurrence. These reviews also resolved that issue by soldering the handle to the shaft. I did this soldering but it is sad that one has to perform a fix on a brand-new product. And I thought, I guess one can’t trust Dorman products anymore.
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BobE wrote:
On the topic of poor-quality parts; I recently bought two Dorman 0.25-inch drain cocks # 61106 from Amazon. While opening and closing both prior to installation, the handle spun on the shaft when going to the close, or open, position without a lot of force.
Checking past reviews on Amazon, I found this wasn’t an unusual occurrence. These reviews also resolved that issue by soldering the handle to the shaft. I did this soldering but it is sad that one has to perform a fix on a brand-new product. And I thought, I guess one can’t trust Dorman products anymore.
There is another thing that's needs mentioned and factored in. Amazon and other online sellers as well are chocked full of fake knockoff, cheap parts. It's probably impossible to catch them all.
I recently bought a distributor cap off Amazon. When I got it, it must felt thin, and cheap and not right. Even so, it would probably function. BUT, I did not like how it felt, so I decided to order the exact same brand off Rock Auto, with something else I had to get, just to see if that is how they are being made. What I got from rock was proper. Thicker, heavier, basically what you'd expect from a quality distributor cap to be. I was seriously thinking about doing a post about it, but decided not to.
But that is the world we live in now. You have to watch what you buy, and where you buy it from.
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That drain cock design hasn’t changed in a hundred years., the handle is merely swagged onto the shaft so a heavy hand will cause it to slip.
I can remember soldering/brazing the shaft to the handle on them when I was a teenager .
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BobE wrote:
What are the issues with the original turn signal switch?
I have the original switch from a 66 Mustang
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^^^THIS is the problem solver...original switch.... NOS 'original switch'
So far...this is the only fix for a bad 'turn signal switch'..replace with original.
BB was looking to manufacture a "better than" original switch for the THOUSANDS of Mustang guys (Like Mochaman) who keep replacing Chinesium switches with more Chinesium switches.
Hope his car buddy Adrian finishes it......
6sally6
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I'm interested in seeing what was being designed for the switch.
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Rudi wrote:
That drain cock design hasn’t changed in a hundred years., the handle is merely swagged onto the shaft so a heavy hand will cause it to slip.
I can remember soldering/brazing the shaft to the handle on them when I was a teenager .
I do not think I used a heavy hand in turning the handle either in the open or close direction, but can say that the force taken to cause it to slip on the shaft was far less then I’ve used to close these valves when installed. Actually, I was shocked when it spun on the shaft while holding it in my hand.
While I’ll agree that the manufacturing of these valves likely hasn’t changed over the years, I will say that from my experience, quality control (or simply ignoring) in the manufacturing process has been lax since many companies moved “off-shore”.
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RTM wrote:
I'm interested in seeing what was being designed for the switch.
Me too! I have a 3D printer, fiber laser cutter, and other goodies. I'd be happy to make it, and if provided the 3D printer file there'd be no chance of reverse engineering. Not like I would do that, but it's worth mentioning.
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If any of y'all want to call Adrian or Jim, message me for their numbers.
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A little off topic but I had to modify my foaming River tilt column turn signal/horn button to. Horn had bad contact and after I fixed that the canceling of the turn signals wouldn't work. Ended up modifying it it with a drill bit which replaced the plastic canceling pin. It all works great now.
I guess no one makes any good anymore. lol
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