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8/23/2018 4:15 PM  #1


67 vintage air

I am getting ready to put vintage air in a 67 mustang for a friend of mine. for those of you who have done this, is there anything, words of wisdom, that you would like to share?  the buckets have been removed and the radio and console will be before I start. not as small as I was at one time.
 

 

8/23/2018 8:54 PM  #2


Re: 67 vintage air

If it uses a bracket bolt to hold the unit under the dash, with the nut for said bolt on the engine side of the firewall, weld that bolt to the bracket. It will make it much easier to get the bolt through the hole and you won’t have to put a wrench under the dash to hold the bolt while you tighten the nut under the hood.
This is applicable to 65/66.  Not sure if 67 is same.

Also, I see Fox 5.0 heater hoses coming out of the dash. Helped locate the heater valve.


Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
 

8/24/2018 10:42 AM  #3


Re: 67 vintage air

Hello , vintage air has great sheet detailed instructions , and sure you will enjoy . These are step by step with no issue at all .  I found useful try to fix before tighten .  Pay attention on pipe  to torque them at correct force.
Some are hidden  so take your time to study which is the best way to do it.
i set vintage air in my 66 alone ,  first time in my life so .... you can do it  !

 

8/24/2018 12:17 PM  #4


Re: 67 vintage air

I am not sure about any other after market a/c.  I have had a Vintage Air for a couple of years and am very pleased with it's performance.  Everyone I know who has Vintage Air is pleased.  Make sure you have sealed your firewall as much as possible and enjoy the cold air.

Last edited by almcgee (8/24/2018 12:20 PM)


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8/24/2018 1:32 PM  #5


Re: 67 vintage air

Pull the instrument cluster, if you haven't already. I find pulling the steering wheel off helps for access too.

When you start on the wiring, make sure to disconnect the battery if you are using the switch for a keyed hot. I found out last night that my switch has a post that's hot with the key off or in accessory position. It goes off when turned to run position. I slipped an insulated spade connector with some heat shrink for an extension over it for protection.

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I was not happy with the block off plate they supply for the fresh air vent on the passenger side. I didn't want to run self taping screws through the bottom of the cowl!!! Yes you can seal them and they shouldn't leak......wasn't doing it!!  I cut a circle from sheet metal slightly larger than the opening and bent a lip on it with a hole in the center. I used a 1/4" x 20 x 3" toggle bolt in the center as a means of securing. With a slight fold of the sheet metal, it passed through the hole and settled on top of the opening. A piece of flat bar spanning the bottom with a nut to secure and a bead of sealer around the inside of the cap and I was set. I don't have a picture to post.

For the bolt that Steve welded, I used a retaining washer to hold it in the bracket, may have been included in the kit. To tighten, I taped a box end wrench over the bolt head inside of the car and finish up under the hood by myself. The tape holds it on the bolt. If it starts turning, it will hit something and stop.

The defroster ducts had nothing to keep stuff from falling down into the unit. I got a rain gutter guard from Home Depot and cut to fit inside the defroster vent, then screwed in place.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Amerimax-Home-Products-Metal-Black-Lock-in-Gutter-Guard-6360/205207064

Getting the controls back into the dash was a pain for me with a factory AC and retaining the registers. It took some maneuvering to get the controls up in the dash, then connect the duct to the register with it being half in and half out of the dash.

Last night, I programed the controls on mine and noticed for the first time that the heat will come out of the AC registers. I don't think there is anything pointed directly at the floor.

 


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

8/24/2018 4:06 PM  #6


Re: 67 vintage air

I also left the fresh vent on driver side in place.


John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
 

8/24/2018 4:20 PM  #7


Re: 67 vintage air

Great post 


Life is too short to drive a boring car😎
 

8/25/2018 2:49 AM  #8


Re: 67 vintage air

Bolted to Floor wrote:

I also left the fresh vent on driver side in place.

I have closed the fresh vent .... but is not the best solution .  leave  it working as is . 
 i have some smog odor, return from exaust and i think is for that one i have close

 

8/25/2018 4:01 AM  #9


Re: 67 vintage air

Alessandro wrote:

Bolted to Floor wrote:

I also left the fresh vent on driver side in place.

I have closed the fresh vent .... but is not the best solution .  leave  it working as is . 
 i have some smog odor, return from exaust and i think is for that one i have close

Regarding your smog odor, check your rear deck lid seal.  If that seal can leak, exhaust might be drawn in through the rear deck when you're driving.
 


1968 T-code Coupe with a 302.  Nice car, no show stopper for sure, but I like it.
 

8/25/2018 5:26 AM  #10


Re: 67 vintage air

I put vintage air in my 64 falcon years ago, haven't had any issues with it at all, customer service is good been dealing with a guy by the name of Tony extension 112. hard to beat the customer service they provide. i wish my cell phone was as good as vintage air perhaps i wouldn't have missed my phone call to tony yesterday.
 

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8/26/2018 6:47 AM  #11


Re: 67 vintage air

yes, I am slow but as long as I get this finished by Tuesday i'm good. OK, how in the world did anyone get to those mounting holes against the firewall? AND, have them in the correct place? I've read the instructions one is 3 1/2" the other 3" . AND it's got to set level left to right and fore and aft. did anyone make a template? news flash, wouldn't it be useful that the manufacture did that?

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8/26/2018 7:32 AM  #12


Re: 67 vintage air

Does it use the factory mounting holes for the AC box?  If so, the factory locations are dimpled in the firewall and are actually fairly easy to find.  If not...good luck!

 

8/26/2018 12:33 PM  #13


Re: 67 vintage air

would they be refering to dimples in the insulation or on the metal of the fire wall. they say measure over from the holes where the heater core goes thru the fire wall, which does not put you in the center of the dimple of the insulation

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8/26/2018 12:36 PM  #14


Re: 67 vintage air

Metal firewall, and on the engine compartment side if I recall. 

 

8/26/2018 3:37 PM  #15


Re: 67 vintage air

val fulesday wrote:

yes, I am slow but as long as I get this finished by Tuesday i'm good. OK, how in the world did anyone get to those mounting holes against the firewall? AND, have them in the correct place? I've read the instructions one is 3 1/2" the other 3" . AND it's got to set level left to right and fore and aft. did anyone make a template? news flash, wouldn't it be useful that the manufacture did that?

  
for my mustang 66 the instructions was full of template , for any kind of hole or cut  . check website and look for it or give a call , they are useful and sharp

 

8/26/2018 3:44 PM  #16


Re: 67 vintage air

I installed Vintage Air "Gen IV" system last year on my 65 and am quiet pleased with the unit.
Some issues I ran into:
 - I used a v-belt system and had to use the 3-groove crank pulley rather then the Vintage Air suggested 2-groove pulley.
- I have 7/16" threading in the heads, the bracket spacers Vintage provided were 7/16" ID and did not allow for any tolerance needed to fit the bracket to the head.  I bored the 3 spacers out to 15/32" to allow the needed tolerance. 
- one item I missed (it is included in the Vintage Instructions) was that as I'm using an electric fan, you need to order the "trinary" pressure switch (replacing the supplied "binary" switch) to activate the fan when the A/C is in service.
- duct hose routing was a challenge and had to make some oblong in some places to fit.
- you may want to consider painting the brackets on the dryer and the condenser lines as there are quite obvious when looking at the front of the car.
- I removed the passenger seat in order to get this old body under the dash!


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

8/26/2018 6:19 PM  #17


Re: 67 vintage air

Another option if running an electric fan is to simply add another relay connected to the compressor clutch wire.  This way when the compressor clutch is trigger the fan automatically comes on.  My fan control system uses ground switching, which is extremely easy as if any one point of control goes to ground the fan comes on.  It grounds if the thermostatic switch is engaged, if I trigger the override toggle switch, or if the compressor clutch is engaged. 

 

9/05/2018 9:36 AM  #18


Re: 67 vintage air

I was thinking instead of self tapping screws maybe tack weld some elevator bolts to it then you can bolt it in.

 

 

9/06/2018 7:51 PM  #19


Re: 67 vintage air

couldn't figure out why the 67 mustang wouldn't take any more Freon, found that the red valve was slightly open. then I hear that the can could have exploded, personally never hear that before, so could it have?
 

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