hahah no I don't think your being a wise guy I was looking into those headers you mentioned...I look for some post thanks

TimC wrote:

Well..... I don't believe you're going to find a set of longtube headers that will be a direct bolt in, as the AOD is bigger than the C4.  You may want to consider a set of Heddman or JBA shorty headers, or a pair of the repop "hipo" cast iron manifolds.

There's a little search box on the forum here.  Type in "AOD and headers" (be sure to use the word "and" )and you will see prior posts on this topic.  I'm not being a wise guy (this time).  Just trying to be helpful.

RPM just put an AOD in .... he persuaded his longtubes to fit.
FPA makes the stuff with the most chance of fitting, pricey tho.
I'm tired of dragging on everything, so I'm using shorties.

rpm wrote:

Vic, unless you have stainless steel headers, you/they should be able to spread the collectors outward to create the needed room. I did it by lying on my back under the car, and pushing the collector out with my foot.

AKA "the macho man modification" ......BFH and long pry bar workz too.
I LOVE the long tube headers because.......they sound like you got headers, the others....not so much!
Worth the effort IMHO
6sally6
 

I went to the shop today and they had the driver side out..they for sure will remove the passanger as well as it was stiff in there... im hoping we got it solved im gonna go cheapy way and they are gonna cut and reweld so everthing is clear

TKOPerformance wrote:

Frankly I'm surprised they only have to remove one to get the trans in. 

Honestly, I'd avoid long tubes and just go with shorties.  Long tubes are a PITA to install and live with because they hang so low.  If the car's lowered, and even if its not, you have to worry they'll scrape on every speed bump, etc. 

The other big problem I have with long tubes is they have a huge flat spot in the midrange, which is where street cars spend 90% of their driving time.  Long tubes make more peak power, but peak power doesn't mean much on the street.  I'd gladly trade 15 peak HP for 5lbs/ft from 2,500-4,500 RPM. 

I run JBA shorties, which fit well, except for where I had to modify them to fit around my Borgeson steering box.  I believe they also make a set of long tubes if you're dead set.  I used to run them on everything years ago, but got tired of all the problems and switched to shorties on most everything. 

we agreed to cut and reweld them so they clear...well I hope any way.. I heard people bend and spread them but don't know if these guys will even try now that I talked to them about cutting

rpm wrote:

Vic, unless you have stainless steel headers, you/they should be able to spread the collectors outward to create the needed room. I did it by lying on my back under the car, and pushing the collector out with my foot.

damn  I wish I could see some pics because this is the route I think im going after talking to the shop..cut reshape and reweld

Rudi wrote:

My Tri-Y headers pass side I had to be cut in two places and re-angled/rewelded outward to clear the AOD. The driver side had to be shortened so that the connector flange fit between the trans pan and trans housing, sorry can't post pics from where I am now ( Sullivan MO ).
 I would get cast iron HI-PO manifolds If I had to do  it again, easier to connect them to the exhaust pipes.

6sally6 wrote:

rpm wrote:

Vic, unless you have stainless steel headers, you/they should be able to spread the collectors outward to create the needed room. I did it by lying on my back under the car, and pushing the collector out with my foot.

AKA "the macho man modification" ......BFH and long pry bar workz too.
I LOVE the long tube headers because.......they sound like you got headers, the others....not so much!
Worth the effort IMHO
6sally6
 

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Oh it definitely sounds like its got headers.  Many, many comments on how good it sounds.  Though, its bark at this point is much worse than its bite I'm afraid.  The 347 will eventually solve that though. 
 

Plenty of room. Just saying...

haha jut like a puzzle

rpm wrote:

Fixing headers is child's play

Vicfonz wrote:

very nice looks good gonna print this thanx

rpm wrote:

Plenty of room. Just saying...

 

"Hit do" look bad-a$$!!  See IF you were at the beach(my beach) you could run'um jest like dat!
6s6
 

COME OOOOON.........WHERE IS DC WHEN I NEED HIM? (yes I'm yelling ...cause I can't hear good!!!!!)
6s6

I just can't imagine any good reason to put mufflers on Long Tubes!