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    2/10/2019 9:04 PM  #1

    6sally6
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    Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    working on my "pal's" 66 Mustang.
    Little history(short version)
    Its been apart for 6 years and survived two moves....and we only lost the water pump pulley.
    Didn't discover it was missing until late Sat. evening so "no-fire-off" of newly rebuilt 289(with a bigger cam in it...of course!)
    The engine was rebuilt by a local race engine builder/machinist.....who died and his shop was locked up for 4/5 years!!(with the 289 in it)
    Since it was probably the ONLY  SBF in the whole  "Chevy engine shop"it was pretty easy to identify. The son of the owner was  selling off all the unclaimed engines and Larry just happened to hear about it so he went and claimed his(it was already paid for!)
    First time either of us ever dealt with installing a C-4 tranny.  "Different" from installing a T-5/4 speed...very.  The cooling line install was very interesting with the tranny already mounted and bolted up...VERY INTERESTING. Very fun weekend!!!
    Should get it "lite-off"  in a few days.  Got everything set / pre-oiled /primed/ timed/and new gas and ready to go.
    6sal6
    Oh BTW concrete floors are VERY cold in February!!

    Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
     

    2/11/2019 5:29 AM  #2

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Concrete floors are cold in February in SC?  Sort of a cry me a river situation there...

    Did you locate a wp pulley?  I probably have one in the milk crate o' pulleys I've got if you need it let me know.  Cost of shipping and its yours. 

     

    2/11/2019 6:38 AM  #3

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Just a reminder, Mike.  When you far up that 289 be sure to bring the revs up to 1500 or more and let 'er run like that for 20 minutes or so.  I know you know this but with every one going "roller" these days a guy might forget the flat cam rules.

    And tell Larry "Hey" for us.  I didn't get to yap with him much in Florida...it was sort of an abreviated Bash for us.

    BB

    Last edited by Bullet Bob (2/11/2019 6:40 AM)

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    2/11/2019 6:46 AM  #4

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Oh come on now. I was just talking with my buddy in Pawlys Island. He said it’s been in the 80’s during the day and high 50’s at night. It was a balmy 29* by me yesterday. I hate you southerners, lol.

    I'm not a complete idiot.....pieces are missing. Tom
     

    2/11/2019 7:06 AM  #5

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    I like the cold floor , Its become my best friend, The hard part is getting off of it after laying on it for awhile, Note to all Anyone thinking of building a shop in a cooler climate .Install a radiant floor system . Your body will thank you as you age. 

    If its worth doing do it right !
     

    2/11/2019 9:40 AM  #6

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    KM wrote:

    I like the cold floor , Its become my best friend, The hard part is getting off of it after laying on it for awhile, Note to all Anyone thinking of building a shop in a cooler climate .Install a radiant floor system . Your body will thank you as you age. 

    Yes, but if you plan a lift locate it before pouring the slab.  Otherwise you end up having to have the floor x-rayed to make sure you don't hit the radiant piping.  My neighbor ran into that situation with his shop. 

     

    2/11/2019 9:43 AM  #7

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Huskinhano wrote:

    Oh come on now. I was just talking with my buddy in Pawlys Island. He said it’s been in the 80’s during the day and high 50’s at night. It was a balmy 29* by me yesterday. I hate you southerners, lol.

    Exactly!  We had amazing weather last week, got to almost 60 one day, but I knew what was coming.  February in DE, and today no school and already 5" of snow with more on the way tonight.  Not a lot of snow for those that live farther north or in the midwest, but you have to remember that DE has no idea what to do with it.  I could train monkeys to run the plows more efficiently...
     

     

    2/11/2019 11:42 AM  #8

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Just order up a new 65" flat screen TV for your wife and use the cardboard box to lay on.  Takes ALL the cold out of a floor!  BUTT, you still have to pry yourself up OFF that floor!  A four post lift works even better.

    Money you enjoy wasting is NOT wasted money... unless your wife finds out.
     

    2/11/2019 6:37 PM  #9

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Huskinhano.......twern't in Surfside Beach, went wayyyyyy up north to Greenville to waller on the cement floor!
    MS......you are sooooo right about gett'in back UP off 'en de flow.   A little text-a-pade did lighten-the-day though!
    Bullet Bob... Yep...the boy is a little nervous about the cam break-in ordeal.  Funny....back-end-the-day..FT camshaft break-in was a ho-hum event. Not anymore.
    TKO...thanx for the offer!! I'll let'em know butt......I believe he has already "hit-up" Mustangs Unlimited in Atl. for the part.
    6sally6

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    2/11/2019 8:27 PM  #10

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    6sally6 wrote:

    Bullet Bob... Yep...the boy is a little nervous about the cam break-in ordeal. Funny....back-end-the-day..FT camshaft break-in was a ho-hum event. Not anymore.

    6sally6

    That's why the old condenser/point ignitions were great.  You could set the crank to the initial timing you wanted, put a test light across the points and turn the dizzy toward #1 until the light came on....Perfect timing for initial far up.  If the pot was anywhere close you could light it and stuff a screw driver under the throttle stop and go have a congratulatory  beer.  By the end of the beer the cam was broke in and the rings were seated...time to go racing.

    I used to tune up VWs on my day off, usually had three or four lined up for oil change and tune up.  Never put a timing light on one, just used  the test light method which, incidentally, was the method VW suggested in the manual.

    If that engine has bbe setting for six years I just hope you or someone applied some moly cam lube.

    BB

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    2/11/2019 10:35 PM  #11

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Oh yeah!!   That's what took so long. We drained the old oil (was s'pose to have break-in lube already in it) Butt didn't want to risk it.   Drained and FLUSHED the gas tank. Flushed/re-ran/and primed the gas line. New tranny fluid
    Verified TDC and primed oil passages
    New plugs and wires
    Got most all the bases covered (I think)
    6sal6

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    2/11/2019 11:59 PM  #12

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Hey Mike, check out this new invention.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    2/12/2019 8:16 AM  #13

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    6sally6 wrote:

    Oh yeah!! That's what took so long. We drained the old oil (was s'pose to have break-in lube already in it) Butt didn't want to risk it. Drained and FLUSHED the gas tank. Flushed/re-ran/and primed the gas line. New tranny fluid
    Verified TDC and primed oil passages
    New plugs and wires
    Got most all the bases covered (I think)
    6sal6

    Butt...is the cam liberally smeared with cam lube?  If'n it ain't there is a better chance of wiping out the cam upon startup.  Just sayin'.

    BB

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    2/12/2019 9:54 AM  #14

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    who-nose??..The builder is/WAS one of the best around and he sez..."shez-ready-ta-far-off"
    He even had it at TDC(we ck'ed)
    We didn't pull it down that far to check the cam lobes. I wonder if there is a "shelf life" to that  break-in moly/goo/stuff?
    Guess we will see!!
    6s6

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    2/12/2019 9:55 AM  #15

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    rpm wrote:

    Hey Mike, check out this new invention.

    Gosh..........I just love a  comedian!!!!
    6s6
    We had one butt...........getting ON it and then GETTING OFF the darn thang!!
    Pasteboard is a better idea
     

    Last edited by 6sally6 (2/12/2019 9:56 AM)

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    2/12/2019 5:40 PM  #16

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    What are cold concrete floors? Never heard of them. Its Zero outside and my floors are a comfy 70F. I love my radiant in-floor heating in my slabs. 

    Gary Zilik - Pine Junction, Colorado - 67 Coupe, 289-4V, T5
     

    2/12/2019 5:43 PM  #17

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Now you're just showing off Gary

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    2/12/2019 6:34 PM  #18

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    " "!
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    2/12/2019 7:10 PM  #19

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    Wonder if I can air-condition a floor??
    11am and 110 already.

    "Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
     

    2/12/2019 7:15 PM  #20

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    50vert wrote:

    Wonder if I can air-condition a floor??
    11am and 110 already.

     
    And I thought it got hot in Bakersfield.

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    2/12/2019 7:29 PM  #21

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    At least from Bako, a coupla hours drive, will get you into the mountains .... and cooler temps.
    Here, it'll just get you hotter.

    "Those telephone poles were like a picket fence"
     

    2/12/2019 8:47 PM  #22

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    That's because the water spins backward in your commodes......jus say'in
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    2/13/2019 6:49 AM  #23

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    Re: Just spent the better part of a long weekend ..........

    50vert wrote:

    Wonder if I can air-condition a floor??
    11am and 110 already.

    There might be some way to do it, but you can't for example run cold water through a radiant system because it will condensate and cause problems.  I thought about that years ago, but after talking to some people in the industry determined it was a no go. 

     

     

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