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Anyone running either on their car with stock shock towers?
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The first gen cars were available supercharged from Shelby. I've seen plenty that used centrifugal blowers under a stock hood.
Turbos could work as well, but you'd have to locate them and then build all the piping to them. My gut tells me that a blower will be cheaper. Turbos are a bit easier on parts though.
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Glens.5.0 is supercharged
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TKO...I’ve run across those articles about the Shelby’s, but none were EFI.
Coupe...Is Glen running stock shock towers?
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TKOPerformance wrote:
The first gen cars were available supercharged from Shelby. I've seen plenty that used centrifugal blowers under a stock hood.
Turbos could work as well, but you'd have to locate them and then build all the piping to them. My gut tells me that a blower will be cheaper. Turbos are a bit easier on parts though.
I don't know anything about superchargers, but how do you figure turbos are easier on parts? They sure aren't on airplanes. They wear out everything associated with them and themselves. I would think a supercharger would be easier on parts. Just aksing for educational purposes.
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My original aim was to bolt a KB blower on. If your air intake fits now, it'll fit with a KB.
I checked out Glen's blower in Franklin, stock towers, air intake was a tight fit, had to use some flexible tubing. Tried to keep up with him comin back from Murfreesboro in the mustang rental .... didn't happen.
With the shorter front dress of the 95, I couldn't see how I could fit a centrifugal in there.
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Falcon not a Mustang butt prolly same amount of room under the 'bonnet', wouldn't you say??!
jus say'in!
6sal6
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Not sure that is ever gunna see a bonnet. Or shock towers .... or a road.
But it'd be be up there for the best 5 seconds of your life.
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6sally6 wrote:
Falcon not a Mustang butt prolly same amount of room under the 'bonnet', wouldn't you say??!
jus say'in!
6sal6
I don’t want to get to work that fast Mike! 😂
Ran across 68 falcon project for sale this summer.
Dang it! Guess I’ll keep working on what I have.
Perhaps something more sane for the roads.
Definitely 😎
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HudginJ3 wrote:
TKOPerformance wrote:
The first gen cars were available supercharged from Shelby. I've seen plenty that used centrifugal blowers under a stock hood.
Turbos could work as well, but you'd have to locate them and then build all the piping to them. My gut tells me that a blower will be cheaper. Turbos are a bit easier on parts though.
I don't know anything about superchargers, but how do you figure turbos are easier on parts? They sure aren't on airplanes. They wear out everything associated with them and themselves. I would think a supercharger would be easier on parts. Just aksing for educational purposes.
Turbos load an engine and drivetrain gradually, whereas blowers tend to shock load stuff. Centrifugal blowers aren't as bad as roots style blowers because they tend to build boost more gradually. I've seen stock block engines fail at 550HP with a blower and live at 1,000HP with turbos. Wear and maintenance is another issue, but at that level stuffs not going to live as long as it would making less power. I hate to say it, but if you want big power and longevity the best bet is a crate motors swap to one of these newer engines.
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Nos681 wrote:
TKO...I’ve run across those articles about the Shelby’s, but none were EFI.
Coupe...Is Glen running stock shock towers?
Yeah, but the packaging is the same. You will likely have to move the battery to the trunk, but with a Fox 5.0 style blower the tallest point in the installation was the intake manifold, which we already know fits under an early hood.
A KB might be an option too. A buddy of mine runs one on his '95 Cobra. BUT, they no longer offer a Fox kit, and I'm not even sure if they offer SN95 kits anymore, so I don't know how plug and play they would be on an early car.
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Yes Dan, Glen is running stock towers/suspension.
BB
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Bullet Bob wrote:
Yes Dan, Glen is running stock towers/suspension.
BB
Partly right, stock towers but McPherson suspension.
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Thanks again guys.
Always wondered if it would be possible.
Figured some shifting of parts and fabrication would be required...but possible!
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When comparing turbo vs. supercharger engine longevity you also have to take in to account the load on the crankshaft from the belt. That's why most people say turbos are "easier" on parts. Also you need to take in to account how precious little room for an intercooler there is in these cars. I'd run a supercharger non-intercooled before I ran a turbo non-intercooled.
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I'd never run a turbo setup without an intercooler. Too much lag.
Honestly in one of these cars I see no reason to run forced induction. Its a very expensive way to make a lot of power you'll never be able to use in anything but a dedicated race car. 500-550HP is about all a street car car handle safely. Anything over that is just for bragging rights, leading me to conclude that something is on the smaller side somewhere...
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TKOPerformance wrote:
I'd never run a turbo setup without an intercooler. Too much lag.
Honestly in one of these cars I see no reason to run forced induction. Its a very expensive way to make a lot of power you'll never be able to use in anything but a dedicated race car. 500-550HP is about all a street car car handle safely. Anything over that is just for bragging rights, leading me to conclude that something is on the smaller side somewhere...
😂. I am vertically challenged too.
Just don’t see stuff like that on a regular basis.
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Yes stock shock towers he is about to cut them ouff when he starts the restoration again lol 😂
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It’s a good thing we haven’t started yet Coupe.😜
What would be a good resource to learn about either?
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Nos681 wrote:
What would be a good resource to learn about either?
Whats to learn? Centrifugal = good. Positive displacement = better.
Ohh Yeahh ..... the tuning .... now that IS a lot to learn.
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