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    8/08/2020 4:38 PM  #1

    Bullet Bob
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    New territory...

    Well before the engine went south I managed to get somewhat comfortable with making changes to the ECM calibration via Tuner-Pro and Motes Quarter Horse.  So.....I decided that while I was at it I might as well swap the AOD for a 4R70W and the A9L computer for the '94 W4H0, all of which will require a bit of rewiring, re-pinouting, and re-calibrating.

    I have decided that this project is like my old huntin' buddy used to say about eating bear meat....the more you chew it the bigger it gets and pretty soon you can't swallow it or spit it out.

    Oh, and after all the fun stuff is done I'm gonna install a new exhaust system.

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    8/08/2020 5:09 PM  #2

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    Re: New territory...

    You've gotta be more comfortable than me. I Think, If you use Decipha's CBAZA swap wiring instructions, you lose CANP, which I know you wanna keep. Might wanna check with him.
    I'm pretty sure though that ya don't need no stoopid instructions!
    Edit, I'm gunna be goin' on a state mustang club run on Wed, so that I can run some logs and try to dial in my shift schedule.
    It's sorta funny that we've been to more Bashs, than club runs ...

    Last edited by 50vert (8/08/2020 5:22 PM)

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    8/08/2020 6:10 PM  #3

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    Re: New territory...

    You’ll have to have a class workshop at next bash for us young uns.

    Guess you’re living up to your motto....

    To "Do It Right Once" you must first be prepared to "Do it Over"...and over...and sometimes over again.

     

    8/08/2020 6:37 PM  #4

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    Re: New territory...

    Nos681 wrote:

    You’ll have to have a class workshop at next bash for us young uns.

    Guess you’re living up to your motto....

    To "Do It Right Once" you must first be prepared to "Do it Over"...and over...and sometimes over again.

     
    😂😂😂😂😂

    That sounds accurate, but it doesn’t sound right!!!

    John  -- 67 Mustang Coupe 390 5 speed
     

    8/08/2020 10:43 PM  #5

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    Re: New territory...

    In my best French accent...

    You can do it Bobby!

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    8/09/2020 10:14 AM  #6

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    Re: New territory...

    Well, I just broke my EFI connector and I only have one left.  Going on Amazoon to see if I can order a couple.  Moving pins in those things is a fine science....especially if they have been heat cycled a few times.

     

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    8/09/2020 7:58 PM  #7

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    Re: New territory...

    50vert wrote:

    You've gotta be more comfortable than me. I Think, If you use Decipha's CBAZA swap wiring instructions, you lose CANP, which I know you wanna keep. Might wanna check with him.
    I'm pretty sure though that ya don't need no stoopid instructions!
    Edit, I'm gunna be goin' on a state mustang club run on Wed, so that I can run some logs and try to dial in my shift schedule.
    It's sorta funny that we've been to more Bashs, than club runs ...

    Barry;

    Decipha's A9L to CBAZA swap is a quicki to allow you to only change three pins and then adjust the firing order and the injector port order.  If that's all you do, yes, will will have to shut down CANP along with the secondary air, EVP and some other things.  However, I don't see why you couldn't swap pin 31 to pin 11 and keep CANP, which is what I intended to do.  Then I just decided to change the entire pinout to the CBAZA.  Then I broke the lock on Pin 11, then I got PO'd, then I decided to stop messing around with the 60 pin connector since I only had one good one left in the EFI box.  So I made up a short patch cable with the 60 pin and some Delphi connectors, of which I have plenty...and terminals which are readily available.  Tomorrow I'll install all the Delphi mates to the harness and then I can change the ECM or mess with the pin-outs at the Delphi connectors...on the bench instead of under the dash.  Gotta be easier and safer...those 60 pin connectors are gettin' hard to come by, and expensive.

    Have a great cruise, post pix, and let me know how the shift schedule works out....not looking forward to that...if I ever get the car back on the road.

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    8/09/2020 11:32 PM  #8

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    Re: New territory...

    Huh?

    Bob. 69 Mach 1, 393W, SMOD Toploader, Armstrong  steering, factory AC.
     

    8/10/2020 11:48 AM  #9

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    Re: New territory...

    Bearing Bob wrote:

    Huh?

    Just stick to drippy pots, Bob.

     

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    8/10/2020 12:47 PM  #10

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    Re: New territory...

    Good Luck!  Im sure you'll get it figured out and working!

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    8/10/2020 7:23 PM  #11

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    Re: New territory...

    Bearing Bob wrote:

    Huh?

     

    Yeah HUH?!!

    Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
     

    8/10/2020 8:19 PM  #12

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    Re: New territory...

    Sorry guyz, I didn't mean to confuezalate you all.  That was a "Barry Comm".  He is one of us few who have gotten a bit closer to the modren woild.  You boyz might what to studder up a bit on these 'lectronical fuel squirterz.  Otherwize you'll all be trying to bolt a danged Holly onto your lectric veehicle. 
    Catch up a little, won't hurt....much.

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    8/10/2020 8:33 PM  #13

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    Re: New territory...

    BBII's gunna hav'ta giit a bit closer ta the modren woild with his new toy.  

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    8/10/2020 8:43 PM  #14

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    Re: New territory...

    50vert wrote:

    BBII's gunna hav'ta giit a bit closer ta the modren woild with his new toy.  

    Naw, I'm thinkin' 331/T5.  And stuff an 8.8 center section from a MK 8 or something in the rear to handle the gogetum.  Of course if he did EFI it that would be nice...and he'd actually have to learn something.  But, let's not get our hopes too high.  LOL

    I know all is not perfect with you guys, Barry but I hope all is at least livable.  Hugs to Leonie, our best to you both.

    Bob

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    8/10/2020 9:16 PM  #15

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    Re: New territory...

    Pssshh! I'm doing good to tune a carb and a distributor.

    70, ragtop 351W/416 stroker Edel Performer heads w pro flow 4, Comp roller 35-421-8. T5
     

    8/10/2020 11:01 PM  #16

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    Re: New territory...

    Bullet Bob wrote:

    50vert wrote:

    BBII's gunna hav'ta giit a bit closer ta the modren woild with his new toy.  

    Naw, I'm thinkin' 331/T5.  And stuff an 8.8 center section from a MK 8 or something in the rear to handle the gogetum.

    I'm gunna predict that he replaces the gasket and fluids, drives it for awhile, falls in love with the turbo, starts thinkin' bout a bigger turbo, (bigger IS better), of course, that's gunna need tuning .... now he's in the same territory.
     

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    8/11/2020 8:02 AM  #17

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    Re: New territory...

    50vert wrote:

    Bullet Bob wrote:

    50vert wrote:

    BBII's gunna hav'ta giit a bit closer ta the modren woild with his new toy.  

    Naw, I'm thinkin' 331/T5.  And stuff an 8.8 center section from a MK 8 or something in the rear to handle the gogetum.

    I'm gunna predict that he replaces the gasket and fluids, drives it for awhile, falls in love with the turbo, starts thinkin' bout a bigger turbo, (bigger IS better), of course, that's gunna need tuning .... now he's in the same territory.
     

    Could happen...he's not a wuss.

    "you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
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