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    10/26/2020 2:24 PM  #1

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    Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    For a long time I struggled with adding the vert inner rockers or a roll bar/cage.  Sadly, I did not know of the vert rocker option at the time of adding the front torque boxes and other new metal to my build.  I have not welded in the one piece floor yet because I'm waiting until after I get the car dustless blasted.  So I can easily install the vert inner rockers now but will have to cut into the front torque boxes to feed the inner rocker in place and have it in place like it should be.

    I came to this conclusion after working on the back seat and realizing just how tight it is in the back seat.  I'm not building a race car but it will be getting a 500 HP 418 stroker with a T5 built by G-force.  Mostly street driven to shows and local driving.  Plus I've read many others stating a roll bar can be more dangerous in a crash, unless everyone is wearing a helmet on.

    The car has the Daze frame connectors installed but I also added two 1/2 inserts at each corner so I can build my own removable X brace.  I also plan on installing the sheet metal panel behind the rear seat to add safety and stiffness to the car.

     

    10/26/2020 5:19 PM  #2

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    RTM wrote:

      I also plan on installing the sheet metal panel behind the rear seat to add safety and stiffness to the car.

    Good idea!
      Same thickness of base metal welded solid or at least long skip welds.
     I bet it would really help control any racking/twisting of the rear section of the car.
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    10/26/2020 5:50 PM  #3

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    The inner rockers and one piece seat riser will stiffen your 66 just fine. I know it did mine. I did a roll bar cuz I thought they looked cool. It's been a pita since. Back when I did it, the seat platform on the one piece raised the seat one inch. At  6 foot 3, I couldn't have that so I spliced the hump piece onto my stock seat platforms. The issue faced when splicing in the hump to the lower height platform, is the area to the insides of the seats gets mighty tight.

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    10/26/2020 6:02 PM  #4

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    Convertible floor side flanges point DOWN while coupe/fastback side flanges point UP. 
    If welding in a new floor, might be easier to use a convertible floor so you can get to the area to be plug-welded.

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    10/27/2020 4:58 AM  #5

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    I already have the coupe one piece floor.  I will plan on bending the flange downward.

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    10/27/2020 9:31 AM  #6

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    I followed this how to article pretty much step for step:

    http://www.streetortrack.com/Installing-convertible-rockers-into-a-65-68-p-14.html

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    10/27/2020 4:09 PM  #7

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    Bearing Bob wrote:

    I followed this how to article pretty much step for step:

    http://www.streetortrack.com/Installing-convertible-rockers-into-a-65-68-p-14.html

    Thanks, parts will be here tomorrow.  Hope to have time this weekend to get going on it.  

    I also ordered the bearing kit for my clutch pedal and the power brake mod for my brake pedal from MS yesterday.  So I should have some things to keep me busy for a few days.  lol

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    10/27/2020 8:14 PM  #8

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    Convertible floorpans have no flanges on the sides.  Factory, they spot welded to the inner rocker on the bottom.  Some replacements may have flanges on them or what not, but the one piece dynacorn floorpan I have had none.    All the spotweldsI removed taking the original pans out were attached to the lower inner rocker.   I probably have some pictures on my old laptop if it will fire up.

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    10/28/2020 6:12 PM  #9

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    Greg B wrote:

    Convertible floorpans have no flanges on the sides.  Factory, they spot welded to the inner rocker on the bottom.  Some replacements may have flanges on them or what not, but the one piece dynacorn floorpan I have had none.    All the spotweldsI removed taking the original pans out were attached to the lower inner rocker.   I probably have some pictures on my old laptop if it will fire up.

    My memory must be getting really bad. I guess the main thing I remembered is they are DIFFERENT on convertibles.  I have replaced several on coupes and fastbacks, but none on a convertible. Thanks for setting me straight, Greg.

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    10/29/2020 5:15 AM  #10

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    When I bought my full floor pan it arrive in a boxed labeled for a convertible.  I was upset and really had no idea there was a difference between the two.  But I feared it was something huge and it would have to be returned.  After speaking to NPD they said I had the correct pan.  NPD said the convertible pan flange was bent down and the coupe/fastback pan was bent up, mine was bent up.  Made sense to me so I was happy.  I've never worked on a convertible before so I have no clue what the factory did but I was left with the impression the convertible floor pan has a flange that's bent down or atleast the aftermarket pan does.

    On a side note I somehow ordered two left inner rockers and two seat pans.  So much for saving on free shipping because that savings will go back to returning the two extra items I bought.  Don't order parts after a glass of wine.  lol

    So far I'm on call for work today but rumor was I may get called in.  One of the doctors thinks he may have a case for us.  Yesterday was another 13 hour day at work with only a 5 minute lunch.  Maybe I can start on the inner rockers today after I get all my other tasks done.

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    10/29/2020 11:44 AM  #11

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    I'm pretty sure the convertible floor pan sides turn down is because the inner rocker is in the way if it turned up.

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    10/29/2020 1:20 PM  #12

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    That's my understanding with the vert floor pan, lip down.

    I got called into work so no mustang fun today.  I did get time and a half all day since its call back pay.  Other good news is the parts I ordered from MS on are they way.  I will be able to modify my clutch pedal now but still need to order the cable conversion kit.  I also sold my drum set I haven't played in a very long time.  This will aid in getting the car sandblasted.

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    10/31/2020 3:54 PM  #13

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    MY MS parts arrived today.  No mustang work yet.  Work 12 hours yesterday and had to go in today which I had volunteered for.  Hoping to work on the mustang tomorrow.

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    11/01/2020 2:59 PM  #14

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    Me and my son got the passenger side cut through the front torque box.  Now we just need to trim it to fit for length while fitting it against the rear torque box.  We already made a cardboard template but had enough so we called it a day.  

    While my son was cutting the front torque box I did manage to get the roller bearing conversion done on the brake/clutch pedal bracket.

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    11/01/2020 6:27 PM  #15

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

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    Me and my son got the passenger side cut through the front torque box.  Now we just need to trim it to fit for length while fitting it against the rear torque box.  We already made a cardboard template but had enough so we called it a day.  

    While my son was cutting the front torque box I did manage to get the roller bearing conversion done on the brake/clutch pedal bracket.

    Pretty gratifying working with your kid, huh?!
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    11/01/2020 8:13 PM  #16

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    Nice progress... but where's the pics?

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    11/02/2020 4:48 AM  #17

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    Bearing Bob wrote:

    Nice progress... but where's the pics?

    I'm having problems posting pictures.  Ever since I clicked "not to ask me again" when posting pictures, I've been unable to post them.

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    11/02/2020 9:51 AM  #18

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    Bearing Bob wrote:

    Nice progress... but where's the pics?

    I'm having problems posting pictures.  Ever since I clicked "not to ask me again" when posting pictures, I've been unable to post them.

    Till ya get the pic posting working, send em to me and I'll post them for ya.

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    11/02/2020 10:11 AM  #19

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    Try scrolling to bottom when posting pics.  Easy to miss the prompts.

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    11/02/2020 4:50 PM  #20

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    test 
     

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    11/02/2020 4:52 PM  #21

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    Re: Going to add the vert inner rockers and seat pan to my 66 coupe

    MS wrote:

    Try scrolling to bottom when posting pics.  Easy to miss the prompts.

    There's nothing to scroll down to.  I follow the prompt, select a picture from my PC and click upload and I get nothing.  I just typed TEST and tried to post a picture, nothing.  I'm lost.  lol   It use to work before with no issues, until I clicked do not ask again.

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    11/07/2020 6:12 PM  #22

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    Had another great day with my son working on the mustang. It was really nice because he was completely on his own while I was doing other things. He's slowly gaining the skills to do more and more on his own. We got both convertible inner rockers cut and fitted. Then we rebent the floor pan lip down instead of up to fit the convertible inner rockers. Then we test fitted it all and called it a night. I'm hoping by next weekend and no later the inner rockers will be welded in. Then we can get the car dustless blasted and finish welding in the floor and the cowl.

     <img src="https://i.ibb.co/HH14MTF/IMG-6941.jpg" alt="IMG-6941" border="0">

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    11/08/2020 9:57 AM  #23

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    Great work.

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    11/08/2020 2:25 PM  #24

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    Outstanding work.

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    Man, that is looking good.  Excellent work.

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