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11/11/2021 8:39 AM  #1


Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Hi
As Im leaving the 4r70w and going to manual TKO500 Im thinking about bellhousing options. Engine 351c, steel quicktime pretty expensive but safe , Aluminum a few options much cheaper, but do I dare to take a risk if something brakes.What do you guys with  an manual transmission  have ? The Mach 1 is a daily driver with some weekend fun, no dragstrip or racing like that.

Last edited by Mach173 (11/11/2021 8:40 AM)

 

11/11/2021 9:34 AM  #2


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

I have a T5 speed with an aluminum housing and was concerned about the same thing.  As you post, my car sees some “weekend fun”, but no high RPM starts, no power shifts, no real racing, etc.  I believe clutches and pressure plates are much better made today so the threat of explosions is significantly less than years ago.  Go with a name brand quality clutch/pressure plate and I believe you'll be OK.  However, if you want to totally eliminate the possibility of anything bad happening …


65 Fastback, 351W, 5-speed, 4 wheel discs, 9" rear,  R&C Front End.
 

11/11/2021 3:07 PM  #3


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

NHRA mandates one at 11.99 or quicker.  It all depends on how you are going to use the car.  Explosions happen at high RPM, and traction plays a role.  In a street car you probably couldn't do it, unless you shifted from like 5th to 1st instead of 3rd or something crazy, but honestly I know guys who've done that and nothing blew up except the engine...

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11/11/2021 10:18 PM  #4


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Dumping the 4r70w, huh?  What were you controlling it with and will the controller be for sale?


"you get what you pay for, good work isn't cheap, and there are NO free lunches...PERIOD!"
 

11/12/2021 12:21 AM  #5


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Bullet Bob wrote:

Dumping the 4r70w, huh?  What were you controlling it with and will the controller be for sale?

Im using the quick 4 from Baumann works great. Everything is in Sweden and is actually sold but I have not removed it from the car yet. Controllers etc are hard to find used here.

Well thanks for the input regard the bellhousing, Il probably go with aluminum, only power shifting will probably 1-2-3-4 
Im thinking maybe centerforce clutch and  flywheel, and malwood under dash kit for hydraulic throw out bearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYnAnXwVD-A




 

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11/12/2021 6:13 AM  #6


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

I'm not a fan of Centerforce clutches with hydraulics for clutch actuation.  I would contact Pro Motion Performance and have them build you a clutch to your exact needs.  Same price or less than most performance clutches with much better manners. 

 

11/12/2021 9:53 AM  #7


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

TKOPerformance wrote:

I'm not a fan of Centerforce clutches with hydraulics for clutch actuation.  I would contact Pro Motion Performance and have them build you a clutch to your exact needs.  Same price or less than most performance clutches with much better manners. 

If you had to pick an of the shelf clutch from Summit what would it be ? Hayes MCleod ? 
 

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11/12/2021 10:02 AM  #8


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Probably McLeod.  That's the brand Hanlon Motorsports stocks, and I trust Bob's judgement.

 

11/12/2021 10:28 AM  #9


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

TKOPerformance wrote:

Probably McLeod.  That's the brand Hanlon Motorsports stocks, and I trust Bob's judgement.

Thanks :-)
 

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11/13/2021 1:48 AM  #10


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Btw Cable clutch or Hydraulic ? How big difference is it ?

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11/13/2021 5:57 AM  #11


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Personally I'm not a huge fan of hydraulics.  I find they provide a numb pedal that makes the engagement/disengagement point hard to find based on the pressure you apply.  A cable or other mechanical linkage is better in that regard.  Hydraulics I guess are easier on your left leg, but I grew up driving dump trucks with three finger clutches in them, so no car's clutch has ever bothered my left leg.  Feel wise I think the difference is night and day.

 

11/13/2021 3:38 PM  #12


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

I need to dig a little deeper but last time I looked I could not find a safety bell for my 94 T5.  I have a twin disk clutch setup for my car, steel flywheel.  The car will get CalTracs and their leafs so it should hook hard. depending on my tire selection.

 

11/14/2021 3:07 AM  #13


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Well I went with Mcleod Flywheel, cluth, hydraulic bearing etc and Quicktime bellhousing. Sonnax Yoke, Il be back with some pictures when Everything arrives :-)

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11/14/2021 6:53 AM  #14


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

RTM wrote:

I need to dig a little deeper but last time I looked I could not find a safety bell for my 94 T5.  I have a twin disk clutch setup for my car, steel flywheel.  The car will get CalTracs and their leafs so it should hook hard. depending on my tire selection.

Since it was only made for 2 years I doubt the aftermarket bothered with the R&D for a specific SN95 blow proof bellhousing.  The SN95 V8 T5s had a longer input shaft and different bellhousing.  The easiest thing to do is swap the input shaft for a Fox length shaft and use a standard SBF blow proof bellhousing.  The only trick is you should check the mainshaft endplay when you do this.
 

 

11/14/2021 1:36 PM  #15


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

As TKO says, I am running a McLeod bell in my race car which is a 95. I had to run the shorter input on the TKO I started with. I am not aware of an explosion proof bell for the SN95 longer input shaft. I had to add a spacer to the pinion flange to make up for the shorter set-up.

 

11/29/2021 6:24 AM  #16


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Just waiting for the 26 spline shaft and new bearing :-)

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11/29/2021 2:37 PM  #17


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

Com 'on man!!
NOT gonna drag race it
Prolly won't spin it above 6000RPM (if that!)
No slicks
Prolly not a sub-12 second car
WHY would you need a scattershield  or even worry about an Alum. bell being strong enough?
I used a NAPA clutch/pressure plate 5+ years ago and ....drive-it-like-I-stole-it on a regular basis!

RELAX.....save your bread....Tell your buddies you NEED a blow-up proof clutch and scattershield because of the insane HP you are running!
They'll never know the difference unless you tell'um
Half the people that hear mine think it's a  BOSS 302!!!
6sally6


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11/29/2021 2:44 PM  #18


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?


Get busy Liv'in or get busy Die'n....Host of the 2020 Bash at the Beach/The only Bash that got cancelled  )8
 

11/29/2021 4:07 PM  #19


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

When ya gonna put that gear drive in Sally to go with your exhaust?

 

11/29/2021 4:25 PM  #20


Re: Steel or Aluminum Bellhousing ?

MIke!
Holy Gilmer belt Batman!


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